Scottish things and people that I like

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I just had a flashback to singing "Andy Ritchie's baws are always itchy"
:-/

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That can isn't purple. FAKE JIMMY BUNNIT!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Reminds me of the old joke:

Q: What's Lionel Richie's African cousin called?
A: Mboza

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 July 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

held the World Cup winning Hungary side to a goalless draw in their national stadium

Really? Aside from the fact that Hungary never won the WC (but, fair enough, they were supreme in the 50s), I can't find anything on the Web about this.

Scotland, World Champions 1967 indeed. At least until October when that title passed to Northern Ireland, of course.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Booze:

For all my talk of national characteristics, there's one thing more than anything that makes the Scots Scottish.

The bevvy.
The peeve.
Getting pished.
THE BOOZE.

But not just the desire for drink, a trait which I'm sure you'll agree many nations share such as the Irish, the Scandinavians, the Eastern Europeans and England fans in Union Flag swimming trunks in Spain, it's the desire to consume in flagrant contradiction of legality or even just plain good taste that marks us out.

Witness, for example, the spectacle at Christmas. Small children, even the under-5s, are force-fed advocaat by well meaning grannies like French geese (with comparable effect on their livers) in the misguided belief it's "not really drinking" till they vomit spectacular rivers of eggy spew. "Poor wee love, it must be all the excitement." Aye, obviously.

Is it any wonder, then, that we continue the habit as soon as we get the chance? Alcopops were a bit of a godsend for a nation with a hugely sweet tooth, but we go for the hardcore ones rather than the bog-standard breezers. Mad Dog 20/20 drunk neat! Tonic wine! Thunderbird! These are the drinks or your glorious Scottish alkie, not johnny-come-latelys like WKD (even if it is Irn Bru flavoured). I mean come on, the Lanark triangle kept a certain community of monks in cassocks for years, and has given them enough money to buy sandals for ever more.

The inventiveness doesn't end there, however. Many big industrial sites used to have their own bars, where men would fight to pour as many drinks as possible down their throats during their lunch break before going back and trying to put a half shift in. (Seriously, I've seen people drink upwards of 6 pints in 30 minutes) But what if you worked on a site where there wasn't a bar? Well then you had to get creative. If you worked on a site where it was used, acetone wasn't half bad with the right amount of mixer. If you didn't, then it was a matter of resorting to the slightly more fragrant, and therefore harder to mix, photocopier fluid. THESE ARE NOT AS BAD DRINKS AS THEY SOUND. My knowing this may be A BAD THING.

But I suppose, at the end of the day, the best things about Scottish booze are the common things. Even the mass produced lagers are OK, but there are some great beers including the pick of the bunch, Caledonian 80/-. There's a craving for dark rum that probably beats that of anywhere else in the world. And then there's the water of life, the malt. If you don't like one, then you just haven't tried enough. There's one there for you somewhere.

If you're at the bar, I'll have a hauf and a hauf pint. Heavy, aye.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I clearly second Chic Charnley.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Aldo, do you have nothing better to do, like a job or something? :)

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

pot. kettle.
BACK TO WORK MADCHEN!

dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Aldo, do you have nothing better to do, like a job or something? :)

He didn't get a bonus. The first thing you do at work after receiving such news is NOTHING PRODUCTIVE. I got the same news today and I spent my afternoon ranting about Celtic's ineptitude - aldo's rants have been more interesting, though I'll never forgive him for calling me a posh hun because I buy the occasional Herald.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, someone upthread mentioned "lucrative".

If "lucrative" meant even the possibility of a penny a year, given it's fun and 1) my job isn't and 2) the bonus is worth the square root of fuck all (in real terms, it's actually about two weeks wages, but you're supposed to work hard all year to get it and these are more or less real time - with work fitting in wherever) then doing this instead of actually working is several orders of magnitude "better".

Fuck me, I wish I could just write pish for a living. With an editor these screeds might be almost entertaining.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Hold on... The Marmalade.

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

http://idisk.mac.com/stephentrousse/Public/ra.gif

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Are these part of your "gritty street urchins" collection Stevie?

KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Madchen a Brit who lives in Scotland or a Scot who lives in England? I never did know.

MaryMary, Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

she's english, in scotland


ally looks so young, in that photo!!!

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 28 July 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

a "brit" who lives in scotland. umm, yes :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 28 July 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

so do you RJG!

Cathy (Cathy), Thursday, 28 July 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Sigh. Today's chapter of my Scots history was all about the '45 and Culluden and all that. Terribly depressing.

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link

STOP PRESS: It was closer than we thought

Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

According to this book, it was actually quite a good thing both for Britain and for Scotland that they didn't win. But it was still depressing to read about how Highlanders were driven by some misguided sense of "honour" to fight for some bloke who'd never set foot in Scotland before, hadn't ever even seen a kilt before and didn't speak a word of Scots or Gaelic. (Yes, I know all of these things are cliches I should be well accustomed to, but it's very different from the version that my family go on about.)

I would actually like to go and visit again as an adult. I remember being taken by a child, and not being very impressed by much, except running around chasing my brother screaming and pretending to go at him with a claymore or something. My mum said there was a book where you could look people up to see if any of your ancestors had died there, and she claimed to have found quite a few.

I did like the descriptions in the book of the Highlanders being so terrifying that most of the early battles just involved the loyalists turning around running away. :-)

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the phrase: "Dinae get tickets on yourself doll".

Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Who says "dinae"?

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I only ask because "doll" seems very Glasgow and "dinae" disnae

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone's in the kitchen with Dinae, someone's in the kitchen, I kno-ooo-ooo-ow, Someone's in the kitchen with Dinae... strummin' on the old banjo!

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:16 (eighteen years ago) link

My ex-flatmate Kate. From Dundee. She should be on this thread too as a Scottish person that I like.
If I've spelled any of the above liked phrase wrongly, then just put it down to being English and shamelessly appropriating the cultures of others.

Or just say I can't type for the life of me, especially using this mysteriously bouncey keyboard.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh from Dundee, they do say "dinnae" up there

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Two 'n's - Thank you.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

My flatmate, from Fife, says "the noo". I like that.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course, I say that AND "Och aye"!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like to point out I was most taken with the concept of having tickets on oneself. (Not that I do etc etc despite being accused jokingly several times)

Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

What does "having tickets on oneself" actually *mean*?

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish i could say och aye

dahlin (dahlin), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone who has tickets on themselves considers themselves to be gallus. Hope that helps.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Considers themselves to be A Roman Emperor?

I'm even more confused now!

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

What is the noo? I've always been afraid to ask.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

That photo gives me the wullies.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Noo=now

Stew (stew s), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

More likely a Moron Emperar.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

"The now?"

Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Just now, yes.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I found myself saying "yon" (for "that") the other day. Just slipped out.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Och aye the noo" = "Oh yes, just now"

I once heard of a guy at Celtic Park saying "aw naw er Annoni on an aw noo" which is brilliant if you say it quickly.

(trans: Oh no! There's Annoni* on as well now)
(*Enrico Annoni: pish Italian defender who was once Celtic's highest earner)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

My favourite is "Ah'm urnae" - which seems to translate as "I am are not"

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

As I understand it, it means you fancy yourself a bit.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

O. M. G.

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/vli/language/scots/index.htm

It's pure mad n'at huvvin yer ain pairliment n'at ay?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

That is the best thing I've ever seen!

Even better than "Glaswegian Windoos" or whatever it was called.

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought it was a piss take at first.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

It is aften yaisefu tae ken aboot the Pairlament an whit is gaun on in it afore ye get involved or hae yer say. There sindry weys tae get mair speirins anent the Pairlament or oniething in this leaflet.

That makes the linguist in me roll over on my back and waggle my arms and legs in the air with joy!

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a bit too close to Chewin' The Fat's "Translated for the Neds" sketches for my liking.

Awright troops!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I did actually read one of their documents ... and the first one that was translated was all about "how to increase communication in minority languages"

(And FWIW, Scots is not just a "Translated for Neds" type dialect - it is actually a separate language, related to Old English/Anglo Saxon but with more Scandinavian influence and less Norman.)

Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link


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