S/D: Albert Brooks, the neurotic American Ozu

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I rarely use the word radiant, but I will here: Streep is radiant in Defending Your Life. She carries all this baggage as being so humdrum and serious--I was so surprised at the time at how well she pulled that role off.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing like people looking at Metacritic scores to make me wish I'd been born 30 years earlier.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure most of you have seen this, but in case anyone hasn't:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J43bcbIzfI&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

mother's watchable enough, but the muse is a disaster. havent seen looking for comedy...

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't care much for Mother & haven't seen any of his stuff since, but his initial quartet of films are all fab. Plus Taxi Driver, Broadcast News, "The Simpsons"...I basically kinda love the guy.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

xpost I generally couldn't care less about metacritic, etc., but they do take into account pretty much all the major critics. Admittedly, that doesn't say very much, but as an aggregate surely it gives an indiction of a film's general reception. There will always be contrarian outliers who really love/hate anything, but I think even they factor into something like metacritic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Morbs, are you a big fan of "Looking for Comedy..."?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

It was OK.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

So Metacritic would give your review around a ... 62?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

"It was OK." - Morbs, ILX.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I use Metacritic to read reviews, for which it's quite handy; I never look at the score.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I came back from vacation on Sunday night realizing that, because I was barely on the Internet all week, I had no idea what the general reception of Moneyball was. So I checked out Metacritic and thought "hey wow!" and felt a bit more excited about seeing it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

looking for comedy in the muslim world had some funny stuff in it and had this guy's usual lovably weird and unamerican straightfaced quotidian mildness (critics called it... japanese) but i don't remember very much of it at all; it was so slight. lost in america is literally amazing -- the first time i saw it i was totally disoriented by how few scenes it seemed to have, but those i remember all of. defending your life is adorable: rip torn, buck henry, and yeah that glowing meryl streep performance; it's the only movie my dad likes meryl streep in.

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

The high score shouldn't be taken so seriously when fools like David Ansen will rise to any Oscar bait ever released.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Up in the Air fer instance got an 83.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

But again, unless I'm mistaken, it takes into account all the copious naysayers and contrarians, too. It just gives a general good bead on how a film has been received, and "Up in the Air" for sure was received well, even if I didn't like it. Like I basically said above, there's always someone who loves/hates everything/anything, and I'm sure there is someone that loves "Looking for Comedy ...", too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

But if a human rights violations like UITA get an 83 and I see Ansen, Rex Reed, and some TIME Magazine loser fellating it, I'm going to say, "Hmmm...."

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I'm going to say at least 83% of critics don't think of "Up in the Air" as a human rights violation? Certainly there are some negatives incorporated into that arbitrary number.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4RZTNtuZvQ

once seen, never forgotten.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

Mother isn't great but it's much better than the stuff that followed. The stuff before Mother is some of my favorite stuff, and I still think about little parts of Mother from time to time.

For example: pretty much every time I buy jam.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

My second favourite scene in the movie, eclipsed only by:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rS5Zusw4M&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

"it takes into account all the copious naysayers and contrarians"

no. hell, my pub is on there now, and the brayers who are de facto PR shills for the studios still dominate.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

And they shall always dominate.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

The interviewer's cardigan really makes that job interview scene work.

Aimless, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

"A bird lives in a round stick!"

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Santy Clause."

Love Marshall's pronunciation.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

btw, Brooks played a recurring character for the first season or two of "The Odd Couple" (produced by Marshall)

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

oddly, Defending Your Life is the only movie of his I've ever seen. SNL/Hank Scorpio are hilarious tho

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

btw, Brooks played a recurring character for the first season or two of "The Odd Couple"
"It's now! It's happening!"

Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

i kind don't fully get the love for this guy. he seems kind of pedestrian. did not like "real life" much.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 29 September 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

He's one of the few actors who can play smug and sweet in the same performance.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 September 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

<3 albert brooks always but he def peaked with lost in america.

i posted a quote on the "DRIVE" thread where the director says lost in america scared the hell out of him as a kid, he thought that brooks' character would end up killing someone some day, and that is why he cast him in his movie

cocaine snorting suburbanite who says "retard" (buzza), Thursday, 29 September 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think real life's very good. a good concept, but he doesn't do enough with it. it feels very static, like a 5 minute sketch stretched out to 90mins of entropy.

Joe Romeo, Concerned New Yorker (stevie), Thursday, 29 September 2011 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

exactly. it also feels very dated, insofar as w/ reality TV all these ideas have been harvested for jokes over and over. brooks can't help that, obviously, but i think it still diminishes the film.

i'll check out lost in america again. haven't seen it since high school (and that was a long time ago).

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

agree that Real Life was a wobbly first feature, but I still love that exec on the speaker phone saying "James Caan!"

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 September 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

Besides the Hollywood honcho on the speakerphone- "They're not gonna care about the guy with the cup, they're gonna say Where's Newman? Where's Redford?"- there is a good bit on the steps of some institute of higher learning: "If I had worked harder or had been graded more fairly, I would have been a scientist."

Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

^ That last quote is Brooks in a nutshell. The naivete, the egotism, the grudge-bearing, the hint of social dysfunction. It's the line of his I like to quote the most - you can replace the word "scientist" with anything.

Josefa, Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think the speakerphone honcho is Brooks. Similar to how he talked to himself as the Mercedes salesman in Lost In America ("It's a very thick vinyl.")

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I did not know that.

That's a good description, Josefa. Think maybe AB is a missing link or at least a stepping stone between the likeable coward comedic archetype of a Bob Hope to the full on make-you-squirm flop sweat of Andy Kaufman or Ricky Gervais. Although Albert is only two years older than Andy so maybe not.

Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

"You've heard of a no-win situation?"

Also, what is the movie with Julie Kavner where he says "We're gonna look like JERKS if people think we can't get a table at the hot hour?"

(Yeah, AB's dad, a radio comedian, named him Albert Einstein.)
The dad's stage name was Parkayakarkus, I believe. Hard to spell, that one.

Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

According to Wikipedia, he was famous enough to be the subject of a Porky Pig parody.

Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

"If I had worked harder or had been graded more fairly, I would have been a scientist."

― Pollabo Bryson (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:41 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah there are lots of good zingers like that, but as a whole the film is tedious. again, need to see lost in america again.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 October 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

Tedious, I don't see. With Charles Grodin as the straight man?

Real Life is one of Jon Stewart's favorite movies, fwiw.

Josefa, Saturday, 1 October 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

maybe not tedious, more... neither here nor there? anyway.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 October 2011 07:14 (twelve years ago) link

I do find that sometimes Albert Brooks plays is so straight it's practically ... straight. That is, it's not always the kind of humor you laugh at, which is a pretty odd kind of humor.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Like an uptight Henry Jaglom riffling through jokeless Woody Allen scenes

Unlike Albert Brooks, but very much like Woody Allen, this person knows nothing about the art of cinema.

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

I think of Brooks as one of the new wave of "meta" stand-up comics that came out of the 1970s, along with Steve Martin and Andy Kaufman. Each had his own angle, with for example Kaufman being the most mischievous, audience-bating, and intentionally confusing. Martin played around with identities, coming across as a hipster and goofball simultaneously (like a Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis in one). Albert Brooks' angle was a kind of complete earnestness that does play almost straight a lot of the time, but there's always a kind of tension where you suspect that his character is not all there. In films like Real Life and Lost in America he clearly loses his mind; maybe in the more recent films he plays it straighter, I'm not sure.

Josefa, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

Garry Shandling walks a similar line. I saw that comedian roundtable with him, Marc Maron and a few others, where Shandling keeps going into his study of Buddhism, and for the life of me I couldn't tell if he was being funny.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

"I opened for Sly and the Family Stone in '73," Albert Brooks once recalled of his early days as a stand-up comedian. "At that time, Sly was known to snort large cities... We were in Tacoma, Washington, and it was 7 p.m. and the show was supposed to start at 7:30. His manager came to my dressing room and said, 'How long [a routine] do you do?' I said, 'With this crowd, maybe 15 minutes.' He said, 'What's the longest you can do?' I said, 'Why?' He said, 'Sly is in Ohio.'"

"I was off in eight minutes," Brooks recalled. "I swear to God, somebody threw the top of a beer can and it cut me. I was so upset, right before I left the stage, I actually said to the crowd, 'I'm going on Johnny Carson and telling everybody how bad you are.' As if all these people would immediately stop and go, Uh-oh."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

Mother's way underrated

Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 19:49 (one month ago) link

oh, it's such lovely cheese!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link


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