The real answer would be that they are ALL chart trance from 1999.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Take Bryan Adams out of that and you have a decent "Side One" for a "Best of the 90s" mixtape.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― michael (michael), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
kiwi, watch that bubblegum guilt!!
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
You forgot:
2nu, "Ponderous"The Brian Setzer Orchestra, "Since I Don't Have You"Cliff Richard, "The Lord's Prayer"Dead Eye Dick, "New Age Girl"Voices That Care, "Voices That Care"Bob Carlisle, "Butterfly Kisses"
I think it will be crucial to allow people who actually like some of the list songs to provide positive reviews as a kind of counterpoint.
I love: #36, #50, #53, #54, #57, #74, #77, #84.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I agree that some of these choices were clearly based on familiarity rather than true awfulness - "My Heart Will Go On" sounds pretty good straight after "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" or "Tell Him".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
LalalalaICAN'THEARYOUlalalala...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
HAHAHAHA! So many of these songs are grebt. You are all on crack.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
But Keith, most of Moby's nineties stuff is fine - the metal stuff I'm not sure about but it is surely to negligable to count.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's all blandly inoffensive Radio Rock, mostly, but hardly anything I would run from the room to avoid. This is what happens when you get Yanks to tell you what they hate. Where are all those really shit records that came out of Europe and Britain in the 90s, eh... EH?!!
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
2. red hot chilli peppers “under the bridge”Really? Number 2? It's not that bad, is it?
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”Good pick here. This song should be buried somewhere in a Nevada desert.
8. smashing pumpkins “tonight tonight”? Surely they've put out worse?
11. rem, “radio song”Yes, you should have put "Everybody Hurts" on there, too. Though this one sucks pretty bad as well...Did they really release it as a single?
14. spin doctors “two princes”Another good pick. Awful.
15. bryan adams “everything I do (I do it for you)”However, really EXCELLENT for comic relief, if you start spontaneously singing the chorus if you do someone a favor and they say "Thank you".
16. joan osborne “one of us”Would almost certainly be in my the Top 5, for me.
17. alanis morrisette “ironic”Overwrought, but I dislike "One Hand in My Pocket" more.
19. cranberries “zombie”My father inexplicably LOVES this song. I mean LOVES it. He doesn't like anything else by them, just this song.
42. michael jackson “black or white”Brings back chilling memories of McKauley Culkin...
46. genesis “I can’t dance”Should be MUCH higher up on this list. Another Top 5'er.
57. counting crowes “round here”Mr. Jones
65. toad the wet sprocket “all I want”Nah. Harmless. I say substitute this with that "dance on the ocean" or "walk on the ocean" (or whatever the hell it was) song.
Good list, Tom and Jess!
Others:
As suggested previously, Dead Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" has GOT to be on this list, and way, way up. Sheryl Crow's "If It Makes You Happy". Bryan Adams' "Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman" might be a strong contender as well.
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
one that really should be there: "Both Sides Of The Story" by Phil Collins. or was he just not worth hating by that time?
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
did smashmouth release anything in the 90s? 'walking on the sun' should be included if eligable
and is 'keep em seperated' really worse than 'pretty fly for a white guy'?
― minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is from a BJ discography: Storm Front and the first single, We Didn't Start The Fire, reached the #1 spots simultaneously on the Billboard album and singles charts on December 16, 1989. My Billboard book says it stayed #1 for a total of two weeks. So while it was still a hit during the first flush weeks of the '90's, it peaked before 1990. Hence, I would say: NOT a '90's record.
Oh god, yes, the Juliana Hatfield one.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Champagne Supernova" wasn't a single, but I guess it might as well have been. But given my horrid housemates obsession with it I'll let that pass.
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tracks that I'm not sure came out in the 90s:
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”31. digable planets “rebirth of slick”39. color me badd “I adore mi amore”74. vanessa williams “save the best for last”82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit”
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mckenzie (Mckenzie), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire” - 198931. digable planets “rebirth of slick” - 199339. color me badd “I adore mi amore” - 199174. vanessa williams “save the best for last” - 199282. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit” - 1991
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Is 14.
Graham - by Dodgy's standards, Staying Out For The Summer isn't that bad...
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
Under The Bridge, though...
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ned: "Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century -- a shallow ploy to try and replicate the commercial success of "Disarm," except in place of that single's boringly ominous vibe they brought in the flattest, most rudimentary string section possible and everyone just pumped and pumped and strained to find some emotion in a very, very dull song. Corgan's labored bleating over the top does not help -- he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried in labor.
Ones I like / don't mind so much: "Radio Song" (please replace with "Everybody Hurts," which even as an REM-friendly type I cringed at), "Two Princes" (it seems wrong for Spin Doctors to be the whipping-boys of the 90s when they generally just seemed like a casual bar-band that lucked into a chart single: I don't even think they thought they were cool), "Rebirth of Slick," "Djed" (this is a list of pop singles; shoehorning the 20-minute album track "Djed" in there seems like a really lame way to pick on post-rock, plus ruins the logic of the thing, because if album tracks count I guarantee you there are things on let's say Lou Bega's record that are a million times worse than "Mambo #5") ... (replace "Everything About You," which was at least sort of amusing, with UKJ's "Cat's in the Cradle" cover). "More than Words" I absolutely hate but I feel like there's something remarkable about having written the anthem to every American high-school asshole pressuring his girlfriend to put out, and I think I might like to write about that. (Funnily enough I am already writing something for something else about Silk's "Freak Me," the only song in history that makes me physically ill when I hear it.) "Cantaloop" ain't so offensive (though "Mr. Wendel" is, it seems like something Mr. Lif would have written when he was younger and even hokier). "Sex and Candy" I didn't mind, and file with Spin Doctors -- such a brief flash of an inoffensive throwaway single that it seems rude to hate it. Thank you for remembering the shit that was the Toadies; and yeah, I too unsurprisingly like "Buddy Holly."
Things I seem to recall really sucking: that Cake "how do you afford your rock and roll lifestyle" song, the Fleetwood Mac comeback release (if that can count), Sublime's "What I Got" or the even more dire one that came after it, something or other about Superman by some horrible Canadian alt-rock band or other (Our Lady Peace?), John Secada, "These are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs, BLACK CROWES ...
Also please note that maybe contrary to your intentions this looks like a list that was written by people who listen to mostly alt-rock and just don't like the examples of it that chart.
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Let's just say I violently disagree and leave it at that. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
in fact, that list is a piece of crap straight up.
― darraghmac, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link
unless you're just too cool to listen to the radio, maybe
― darraghmac, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Seriously, considering ILM at the time was a bunch of dudes praising the Manics and fucking Magnetic Fields
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread is appalling. you are all a bunch of idiots.
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Indie rock guilt is so stupid. Why be guilty of music you used to like?
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Tom and Jess coming up with that list:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/images/homepage/2303_jewel_header.jpg
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I like some of the songs on this list (“More Than Words” is just a great tune!) but it's still quite funny. Lots of hate for college rock gone pop stuff.
― Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link
You also missed out Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" or whatever it was called.
-- N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23
Hahaha... I expected this on there as well.
― Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link
"or whatever it was called." = "Errr... not that I would know, of course."
― Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
paul jewell porn arghhhhhhhhhhh
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
What about the Wedding Present as they neared the end of their "hit parade" experiment (and running out of inspiration/money)? They could pretty much release anything at that stage and it would be a Top 40 hit, with something like "Shaft", or the theme from "Twin Peaks" on the B Side.
― JTS, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait Dom you don't like the Magnetic Fields? I thought you were all about lame indie shit like that?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Why be guilty of music you used to like?
even if it was Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots?
― blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not embarrassed to have liked Pearl Jam. Infact i still like those records. Always hated Stone Temple Pilots(apart from that 1 song that sounded like Redd Kross). ST always seem more liked on ILM than PJ for some reason.
Or are you admitting you like Pearl Jam and STP and feel guilty?
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link
the latter
― blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link
i think i just picked completely the wrong year to get into US rock but it coiuldn't really be helped
― blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
I like pussy indie shit, not lame indie shit.
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 30 March 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Ahh blueski I think you're a (good?)few years younger than I am so im sure you can be excused for liking that stuff in your early teens. I liked U2 at that age. And i've no guilt, even though I've hated their last few albums with a passion.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Was the sweetest thing a 90s single? if so that's one of the worst(of any decade)
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
it was an 80s b-side and a 90s a-side. go figure.
unless you're talking about Refugee Camp Allstars 'The Sweetest Thing' which was pretty good (it's OK i know you're not)
― blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Worst use of breathy singing.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link