new orleans is amazing
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
SF is that weird thing where everyone thinks theyre really mellow but theyre wayyyy not mellow
this is otm & is one of the things that really sticks in native socal ppl's craws about nocal
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 17:54 (6 minutes ago) Permalink
yep. also:
san francisco is the boston of the west
going back to visit NYC a few weeks ago my favorite thing is now Jackson Heights, what a great neighborhood
― billy, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
is new orleans better than new york though
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
After watching the local evening news in Baltimore for almost two weeks, reminds me of San Antonio
haha wait
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
it's harder to have a bad meal in Paris than NY...but they really don't give a shit about non-french food
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
$10 is on the high end of what I'm willing to pay for a meal
O_O
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:05 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol maybe I believe in go hard or go home... if you're gonna eat out, eat out and save all your money for a $50 a course meal
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - Or vegetarians. I've never eaten more goat cheese in my life. Never wanted to see goat cheese ever again for a while thereafter and I really love goat cheese!
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
i think you just do cities wrong dan
― max, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
have we done best city in the US for foods ?
― Aerosol, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
why would we need to
otm
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
ENBB i had a pretty similar take on paris. also feel like i'd have liked the city a lot more if i were older/less concerned with having access to 'nightlife'
― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
most of the time after I pay $10 for a meal I kind of feel that was so not worth $10
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
ya Paris nightlife is pretty crap
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting! I probably would have too. I didn't want to go like hard core clubbing or anything but it just seemed to empty out after dark and I was sort of like, "We're in Paris and it's 9 o'clock on a Friday night! We can't just go sit in the hotel room!" We ended up walking around a lot those nights which was great but it still seemed a little odd to me in that way.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
boston and san francisco are two cities that consider themselves important world centers that are actually rather provincial, there are other similarities like size, density, lefty politics, proximity to a much larger city that they think they have a rivalry with, single world class industries (education and tech) - they both in their own ways epitomize the culture of their respective regions - and berkley and cambridge are the same places too - also they hate to be compared to each other which is p lol
im originally from the bay and grew up in boston so im more than anyone really in the world qualified to make this judgement
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah aero I dig food & I oughta go to NYC for the food too. really I just need to book a vacation to NYC sometime soon; business just never finds me there whereas I end up in Europe all the time.
I don't care about night life at all---don't really go to bars---so while Paris is quiet after hours, the fact that American cities can be vibrant late isn't a selling-point to me.
― Euler, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:13 PM
you think it's that clear cut ?
― Aerosol, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
bay area has non-white people is the big difference, Boston just has djp
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Aerosol, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
thread is making me sad i don't live in new york. i was supposed to live in new york; i don't know what happened.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
i did have a friend who took me to the kind of bars where only 50-something parisians hang out and play tarots and get tanked on pastis every night tho, that was cool
― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
san francisco definitely felt 'provincial' when I visited
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
thread is also making me want to defend houston. i've never lived there or anything but it has a lot of cultural institutions iirc. one could do worse.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that American cities can be vibrant late isn't a selling-point to me.
― Euler, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:17 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
probably helps that it's only 7 miles by 7 miles and there are no skyscrapers
yeah aerosol
i mean im not down on SF or Chicago (or LA or las vegas) but, lets be real here, by almost any measure nyc is the best city in this country for food.
― max, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark
I would have loved that! We didn't even know where to find those.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
unfortunately every single last one of the people you are walking next to is horrible, but thats the price you pay
― max, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
That's hardly the first time I've heard that opinion, ice cr?m. I really need to check out Boston some time.
― What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark
OTM. It's the greatest.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
theres still time, i have a futon
skyscrapers have less to do w/ it than the streetscape.
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:20 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
o come on max!
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Oh Max. They're not all awful - just most.
x-post - Same with me and SF. I haven't been since I went there with my parents when I was a kid.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:20 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark
lol was gonna say the same things about hollywood
― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
thanks, max
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
kinda feel like this needs to be split into "best/worst cities to visit" and "best/worst cities to live in" because the perspectives of a city based on whether you're a tourist or a resident are so different and based on such wide-ranging criteria.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
nah im just kidding about the people, manhattan is super fun
― max, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
max otm the village late at night is one of my least favorite things in ny.
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
after living/working in brooklyn for ten years upon arriving in manhattan im still to this day kinda 'whoa this place is nuts'
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
haha the only time I stayed in NYC was in the Village; I don't really dig hanging out with affluent American youths but that was the scene.
― Euler, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
the problem with NYC is you're going to find americans there
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is genuinely sad
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
Also, there are places in Paris where you can go late at night if you want. They also have a nuit blanche (allnighter) tonight
― What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol this thread is getting me k psyched abt ny again, must resist
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
okay i guess the double obese guy would know best
i just feel like although there are more options in NY other cities have hit the high mark for me more often
― Aerosol, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Since The Village was the only place I've actually lived in NYC I think that's partly where I get the overwhelmed feeling. Oh, I guess I lived in mid-town for a while. When I was in Brooklyn last summer I sort of fell in love with it and was all, "Let's move here now!". I know very little about Brooklyn tbh.
― Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
it's like the worlds largest frat row or something. I'm sure it was cool when you could still get stabbed. xp
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
iatee went to stanford so his opinion of berkeley is irrelevant.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link