worst shithole of a major american city

have we done best city in the US for foods ?

why would we need to

otm

ENBB i had a pretty similar take on paris. also feel like i'd have liked the city a lot more if i were older/less concerned with having access to 'nightlife'

most of the time after I pay $10 for a meal I kind of feel that was so not worth $10

ya Paris nightlife is pretty crap

Interesting! I probably would have too. I didn't want to go like hard core clubbing or anything but it just seemed to empty out after dark and I was sort of like, "We're in Paris and it's 9 o'clock on a Friday night! We can't just go sit in the hotel room!" We ended up walking around a lot those nights which was great but it still seemed a little odd to me in that way.

boston and san francisco are two cities that consider themselves important world centers that are actually rather provincial, there are other similarities like size, density, lefty politics, proximity to a much larger city that they think they have a rivalry with, single world class industries (education and tech) - they both in their own ways epitomize the culture of their respective regions - and berkley and cambridge are the same places too - also they hate to be compared to each other which is p lol

im originally from the bay and grew up in boston so im more than anyone really in the world qualified to make this judgement

yeah aero I dig food & I oughta go to NYC for the food too. really I just need to book a vacation to NYC sometime soon; business just never finds me there whereas I end up in Europe all the time.

I don't care about night life at all---don't really go to bars---so while Paris is quiet after hours, the fact that American cities can be vibrant late isn't a selling-point to me.

why would we need to

― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:13 PM

you think it's that clear cut ?

bay area has non-white people is the big difference, Boston just has djp

lol

thread is making me sad i don't live in new york. i was supposed to live in new york; i don't know what happened.

i did have a friend who took me to the kind of bars where only 50-something parisians hang out and play tarots and get tanked on pastis every night tho, that was cool

san francisco definitely felt 'provincial' when I visited

thread is also making me want to defend houston. i've never lived there or anything but it has a lot of cultural institutions iirc. one could do worse.

the fact that American cities can be vibrant late isn't a selling-point to me.

― Euler, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:17 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique

probably helps that it's only 7 miles by 7 miles and there are no skyscrapers

yeah aerosol

i mean im not down on SF or Chicago (or LA or las vegas) but, lets be real here, by almost any measure nyc is the best city in this country for food.

i did have a friend who took me to the kind of bars where only 50-something parisians hang out and play tarots and get tanked on pastis every night tho, that was cool

― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

I would have loved that! We didn't even know where to find those.

walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

unfortunately every single last one of the people you are walking next to is horrible, but thats the price you pay

That's hardly the first time I've heard that opinion, ice cr?m. I really need to check out Boston some time.

walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

OTM. It's the greatest.

thread is making me sad i don't live in new york. i was supposed to live in new york; i don't know what happened.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

theres still time, i have a futon

skyscrapers have less to do w/ it than the streetscape.

walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

unfortunately every single last one of the people you are walking next to is horrible, but thats the price you pay

― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:20 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

o come on max!

Oh Max. They're not all awful - just most.

x-post - Same with me and SF. I haven't been since I went there with my parents when I was a kid.

walking through the village at 2am and the streets are just teaming, even if youre not into partying or w/e, is p amazing and unique

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

unfortunately every single last one of the people you are walking next to is horrible, but thats the price you pay

― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:20 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol was gonna say the same things about hollywood

thanks, max

kinda feel like this needs to be split into "best/worst cities to visit" and "best/worst cities to live in" because the perspectives of a city based on whether you're a tourist or a resident are so different and based on such wide-ranging criteria.

nah im just kidding about the people, manhattan is super fun

max otm the village late at night is one of my least favorite things in ny.

after living/working in brooklyn for ten years upon arriving in manhattan im still to this day kinda 'whoa this place is nuts'

haha the only time I stayed in NYC was in the Village; I don't really dig hanging out with affluent American youths but that was the scene.

the problem with NYC is you're going to find americans there

max otm the village late at night is one of my least favorite things in ny.

― iatee, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is genuinely sad

Also, there are places in Paris where you can go late at night if you want. They also have a nuit blanche (allnighter) tonight

lol this thread is getting me k psyched abt ny again, must resist

yeah aerosol

i mean im not down on SF or Chicago (or LA or las vegas) but, lets be real here, by almost any measure nyc is the best city in this country for food.

― max, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 2:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

okay i guess the double obese guy would know best

i just feel like although there are more options in NY other cities have hit the high mark for me more often

Since The Village was the only place I've actually lived in NYC I think that's partly where I get the overwhelmed feeling. Oh, I guess I lived in mid-town for a while. When I was in Brooklyn last summer I sort of fell in love with it and was all, "Let's move here now!". I know very little about Brooklyn tbh.

it's like the worlds largest frat row or something. I'm sure it was cool when you could still get stabbed. xp

iatee went to stanford so his opinion of berkeley is irrelevant.

xxxp well you start the thread and well see if u and steve shasta can convince anyone

idk having attended nyu i can definitely understand what is exciting about the village late-night, now i go back and oh jesus macdougal street is a fucking nightmare, no i hate comedy, leave me alone

you could not pay me to enter a bar on macdougal street

maybe that little tiny one in a basement but that place is always playing shitty punk music real loud

x-post omg macdougal lol - I forgot you went there too.

if you like brooklyn you'll love philly

http://i.imgur.com/VqVwR.jpg

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