wow, the guardian has gone for an extraordinarily grudging opening to the second par of its obituary:
The iPod, iPhone and iPad were all relatively late to market, were expensive, and, in their initial versions, lacked important features.
a bit lacking in vision, or perspective.
― joe, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
amateurist pretty otm.
― Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
"Massively Successful Person Tells a Bunch of Mediocre College Graduates to Follow Their Dreams, Seize the Day," News at 11.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
:-(
― (╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
apple.com looks very tasteful at the moment
simple black and white, minimalist
RIP
― geeta, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
mediocre? that's stanford!
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
"people seem to be treating him like he won the nobel prize or something"to be fair, there are probably actual nobel laureates who aren't as deserving.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
i know, i'm fooling a bit. i dunno i guess i'm a bit skeptical of the "well i followed my dream and it made me a very very rich man, so you should just go ahead and do whatever comes into your head each day"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
Although PARC invented it, Xerox let the GUI/mouse interface gather dust on a shelf. Jobs brought the GUI to the masses with the original Macintosh. For that alone he deserves tremendous recognition. I get the idea he was much more excited about bringing cool toys to life than he was about money. RIP.
― Aimless, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
My entire professional life has pretty much been attached like a remora fish to Apple so I've always been hoping for the day when Jobs would mercilessly pick apart some software I authored. Sorta like having the honor of being defeated by a samurai master.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
sorry to get all trolly, apple has made some visionary products etc. and he seemed like a nice if kind of pompous guy and it's sad that anyone should die leaving a young family behind.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:20 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Fair point, but this guy was arguably more Edison than Edison. At the very least it's a notable death.
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
no argument there! i think a fair analysis of jobs would be more charitable than i'm being.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
"toys" is OTM
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
gruber keeps revising his post, but: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/10/05/steve
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
Does Gruber have a reason to live now?
― Jeff, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
I mean he has a wife and kids
― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
so don't be flip
jobs is amazing to me as a story of corporate resurrection,l ... ipods / ipads / iphones have changed the world, but in a meaningful and positive way? bit of a stretch, i think.
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/business/steve-jobs-of-apple-dies-at-56.html?pagewanted=all
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
meaningful and positive
― (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
"ipods / ipads / iphones have changed the world, but in a meaningful and positive way?"
yeah, open to debate
― nostormo, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
like i wonder if kary mullis will receive this level of attention when he dies
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
MobileMe has gone down in tribute.
― joe, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
"If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something."
This is terrible advice. On the other hand, Jobs helped the folks at Apple make a lot of products I really like and that I use every day, and he always seemed to me to have managed to balance on that unstable, wobbly point midway between "who needs a new-fangled gadget?" and "follow me to the techno-utopia that starts next tuesday, whole world will be altered"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://allthingsd.com/20111005/bill-gates-i-will-miss-steve-immensely/
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it’s been an insanely great honor
<3 <3 <3
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
love that
maybe that's just how the world works, every one knows Henry ford and lee iacocca and maybe tucker but what about daimler? benini? and barnett?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
fuck cancer you guys
― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:03 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
― thats a bass, motherfucker (hypehat), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes you have to envision a world where obama didn't win to appreciate obama.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
it's the kind of thing a guy with a personal fortune can afford to say/think.
also yeah, fuck cancer. the stanford speech is moving despite the cant.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
I dont get ppls distaste at that quote. It doesnt have to imply "go out and change the world", its about personal achievement in whatever form, jeez.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
Unless all buddhists are wealthy or I donno.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
XP
in that world my aspie cousins are hooked on ham radio instead of farmville, kids plagiarize the encyclopedia instead of google, and i have a walkman and maps in my glove compartment
and a thinkpad in my backpack
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
ILX rip threads always draw assholes. Didn't expect this one to be different.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
And me being me, I muttered a bit.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
^ good words
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
mad respect for this dude, RIP.
― manic pixie fream girl (rip van wanko), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
assholes? who's being an asshole?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
Not you.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i didn't think so either
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/steve-jobs-dead-apple-confirms-former-ceo-loses-fight-20111006-1lag8.html
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― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
like when bill gates dies is it okay to say windows wasn't such a big deal that he deserved forty billion dollars?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
Who says Bill Gates is ever going to die?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
sorry if anyone thinks i'm being an asshole. a guy died and that's sad. people like apple and i know it. i like their products too. but they are consumer products, designed to be obsolescent after a few years and manufactured by cheap labor in asia.
this thread doesn't exist because jobs was a nice guy we all knew. it exists because jobs was a public figure, who was an important part of a company that has had a big effect on the way we live our lives. so the nature of his legacy seems like exactly the thing to be talking about.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
um― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:45 (4 seconds ago) Bookmark
Steve Jobs still dead! Pictures at ten
― thats a bass, motherfucker (hypehat), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
honestly unless the thread is just one endless "RIP Steve Jobs" what else are we going to talk about? how my MacBook shuts down sometimes when it's supposed to just go to sleep?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
zuckerberg: http://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100100934727791
― markers, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
i know bill is making some grand philanthropic efforts, but a world without windows is a better world, though. iphone world definitely beats ham radio britannica world.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link