I was getting pissed off with the whole "fuel situation" stopping them from choosing alternate routes, shouting "there are literally thousands of fucking cars everywhere, siphon some fuel!" then of them said "hey why don't we siphon some fuel?" so I let them off.
Zombie gut check was good. As was the wtf unexpected shooting - I expected something unexpected but not that.
All of the woman are better actors than all of the men.
― building a binary of hope (onimo), Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
the boring dead
― cozen, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
missed opportunity to have the buck turn around and its face is a zombie!
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb156/XredpunkX/EvilDead-DeerLOL.gif
― now they know how many holes it takes to fill buffandmaxsmom (Pillbox), Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
This premiere was a near deal breaker for me, because they had so much time to do it right (especially after that season finale, which was so wrong). And instead they not only went the dull route, they kept bringing all this pandering religion stuff into it. And it's terribly written to boot. All 70+ issues of the comics keep your attention from start to finish, and manage to squeeze in plenty of drama and excitement and characterization in each short installment. How come a show with a staff and a head start can't get it right for an hour once a week?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 October 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
especialloy given this ep was written by the writer of the comics which, sure, not everyone's a fan of, but they manage better than this
― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Sunday, 23 October 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
really badly written, mostly badly acted, still watching it though because the zombies look cool
that cheating wife woman really needs to find some haircare products and a pair of scissors in an abandoned salon, cuz her droopy, thin, long locks are bugging the fuck out of me
― akm, Sunday, 23 October 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
she wasn't cheating, or at least she didn't know she was
― building a binary of hope (onimo), Monday, 24 October 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
Was there a new episode? Was it any good, or at least better?
Whether or not she was technically "cheating," she did manage to hook up with her husband's partner within days of the zombiepocalypse. Though I want to say one of the early eps implied some marital strife at the time? Damned if I'm going to go back and watch season one ever again.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 October 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
every character on this show is intolerably emo. I don't see why the writers need to resort to that sort of thing to create conflict when there's a built in plot mechanism for conflict and motivation that's the entire premise of the show.
plus they all seem relatively fragile. maybe im wrong, but i think the survivors of a situation like this would pretty much be hard ass pragmatists at all times, and wouldn't really tolerate emotional instability.
― ryan, Monday, 24 October 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the comic is also mostly about the survival of the badass. Because zombie hordes don't tolerate dead weight (so to speak).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 October 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like the comic.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 24 October 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but the comic has a sniper pro chick and another going all berserker with a ninja sword. This TV version of that world is more southern rednecks rule. Everyone knows how to hunt, shoot and fix a car.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 October 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
I can do none of that stuff, I'd be useless in a zombocalypse - though I have played a lot of Dead Rising and Resident Evil.
― building a binary of hope (onimo), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
just managed to watch the end of the first ep
what the fuck was that such a weird and shit and inexplicable end to a SEASON PR'MEEEER - egg and his pal watching the kid approach the stag or whatever for what seemed like quarter of an hour both looking at him smiling expectantly but expectant of what what was the kid gonna do and then when he got shot egg and his pal didn't even really look around to see who had fired the shot weird and crap gonna watch the second ep
― conrad, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
Renewed for a Third Season. shocking, I know.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
egg left the house and deliberately wiped his son's blood onto his forehead so his pal could wipe it off - I'm out
― conrad, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
CONRAD OUT
I'm watching this to the bitter end despite everything.
― brownie, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
i'm done with living
― brownie, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
So I take it that means this ep sucked, too? I don't really want to bother with this show anymore, other than the fact that it's so much fun to make fun of.
Or there at least zombies in this episode, or is it another wander around the woods special?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
tbh, all the emotional characterization stuff reminds me of Lost
― ℓ٥ﻻ ﻉ√٥υ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
the fx of the thru-deer-to-kid shot was pretty hilarious.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
otfm
― andrew m., Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
The comic book has lost its way too. The 'we're safe let's build a society! just kidding not really!' thing is getting boring.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Mutually self-assured creative destruction: creator takes on TV show while still doing the comic, both fall apart. Or fail upwards, as the case may be. Though surely there are people out there who actually like the writing and characters and are put-off by all the zombies.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
still enjoying this despite myself, still better than the comic, can't really defend the show on its own terms though, its just junk (w/great makeup effects)
― ryan, Monday, October 24, 2011 10:25 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark
you couldnt wring a full season of tv out of fighting zombies. too expensive, and the last 30 years of terrible zombie movies have already put paid to how boring that is. they have the right idea concentrating on the characters, its just that these characters are overwrought dipshits
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 27 October 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
I skimmed around at a couple of other forums, and the degree of fan disdain for this show is so high. Apparently this last ep actually had the mom interrogate a purported doctor at length to make sure he was OK to operate on Carl? When, of course, there is literally no fucking other alternative, anywhere?
Predominant fan conspiracy theory is that they must skimp on sets, actors, writing in order to afford zombie F/X.
Also, apparently in one character's bag of drugs (?), there was "Breaking Bad" blue meth! Crossover!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link
you're definitely right. i think there's a middle ground though--in that you can concentrate on what these particular situations would reveal about the characters. who's a coward, who's a sadist, etc. The show is in some ways about people "clinging to their humanity" when it would be more interesting to see what would change about them, what humanity they would lose, in order to survive, the things they would do that we'd balk at in our zombie-less existence.
― ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
When, of course, there is literally no fucking other alternative, anywhere?
This is the thing that killed me! Watching it, I was thinking 'Lady, what other choice do you have?' Morans.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
Having not seen this POS second ep, do they explain how dude hunting deer managed to shoot the boy right next to the deer, and also miss the two grown ass men a few feet away? Is he some sort of one-eyed deaf magic sniper?
Also, I hear they drag out the "will he live?" drama for at least another ep, when we all know they're not going to kill the kid. True?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
killing off the kid would be a great idea! im hoping they basically find another group of survivors and we can just start following them around.
― ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Someone somewhere else pointed out the narrative boneheadedness of introducing viewers to another group of survivors a million times more interesting than the ones we've been following.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
do they explain how dude hunting deer managed to shoot the boy right next to the deer,
He shot through the deer into the kid. Dr. Veterinarian notes that the deer slowed the bullet enough to make the wound non-fatal.
― Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
So he was so focused on the deer he didn't see the boy? Right next to the fucking deer?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
deer was inbetween the two- the shot probably came from far away
i'm not ruling out a second gunman
― brownie, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it was:
Dudes ------- Boy -------- Deer ----------------------------- Shooter
― Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
lol i was going to post
c...D.............DH
― brownie, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
the guy didn't think it was weird the deer had six legs and two of them were the legs of a child
― conrad, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe he thought the zombie deer was eating the kid? Or the smiling, enraptured kid was a zombie, trying to eat the deer?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
It's zombie times, man, anything's possible.
― Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
maybe he didn't see the kid
― brownie, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
peeps getting incredulous about the kid deer shooting thing obv dont live in states where hunting accidents happen sometimes
― ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
This was no HUNTING ACCIDENT!
http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/1167/223491-richardbig2.jpg
― Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
shot a deer in atlanta just to see what was behind
― brownie, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
i think the laziest writing trope this show seems to keep using is the delay of information to raise tension that isnt there, ie the "you cant go to the high school. you cant. thats your boy in there." for 5 minutes instead of saying "i will go" or the 5 minute vetting (hah) of the doctor when WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. its really starting to drive me crazy, because they do it all the fucking time.
― ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
like i am really trying to like this show, but yknow theres still better special effects in mid-level horror movies, and they at least have a shot at being well written or compelling.
also these might be the worst written female characters on a show ever, its like the writing staff just brainstorms ways to make them vulnerable irrational and overcome by emotion every week
― ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Well, they are women.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
In real life, most of these men would be blubbering wrecks, too. I mean, flesh-eating back from the dead zombies!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
this show really needs a Rose from lost character, which is a deeply unsettling thing that i thought i would never say.
― ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
They could squeeze 2 or 1.5 episodes into 1 episode. That would cut off all the unnecessary dialogue
I watched a couple amc zombie films recently. The second one followed around characters that were very briefly in the the first one (Diary of the Dead and Survival of the Dead). Neither of the them were that good but Diary was much better. They were both written by George Romero (The Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead)
― ℓ٥ﻻ ﻉ√٥υ (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Um, weren't they, you know, directed by him, too?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link