Inception (with implanted spoilers)

A late-period Orson Welles, preferably.

Aren't there some clues that Marion was right? At the very least, this is an open possibility, and I guess that's why I'm hesitant to really say I've understood what's actually happening in the movie.

lars von trier in a tux

"Ladies and gentleman, what you have seen today has been very confusing ..."

when I first saw it I had the idea that maybe it was constructed like the Escher stairs it depicts at one point, that it leads back into itself at some point. but that's probably wrong and im too lazy to put all that effort into finding out if that's true.

A lot of hand-waving with the limbo thing, but what I got was that you have to somewhat trick your mind into getting you out of there. It's just kind of glaring in a movie where things are spelled out, Ellen Page and Cillian Murphy's characters were able to just get knocked out of there. I assumed it was because it was lining up with the "kicks" in the other dream levels?

Cobb was able to get out because he'd done it before, and he confronts the fact that his version of the dead wife wasn't real and that somehow freed him. The "ah hah" moment of the film was when Cobb quotes Saito's line about being an old man, and turning it around was kind of the "I tricked Saito into incepting himself" moment to me.

So I guess that kind of covers how all four characters get out of there? Really, the limbo bit read to me as if you had to come level of self-consciousness in order to make it away.

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http://inception.davepedu.com/

all that use of the word "Architect" reminded me too much of the Matrix sequels. why couldn't they just say "designey people"?

― latebloomer, Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Been a while since someone said fuck nolans utter waste of a career so here it is

I mean yeah obv but he entertains young men who would only be obsessed with the work of some other wasteman if he didn't exist so he may exercise an important cloacal function arguably

Onanical

But it's his potential that irritates most

David Bentley or maybe denilson of directors

i'd say he's fully achieved his potential imo - he's made a highly successful career built on interesting visuals and intricate puzzle-box screenplays (more often than not) but is cursed by a catastrophic inability to understand human emotions which will likely forever prevent him from doing anything worth watching twice

i still can't get over the end of interstellar where mcconnaughey has literally fought to return from a realm outside space and time using the power of love and then when he's finally reunited with his daughter he's like 'hey what's up okaygottagobye!' and fucks off back into space. who fucking thinks like that

it's made even weirder by the scene where mcconnaughey acts the living shit out of a scene where he's wracked with emotion watching video messages from the now-adult children he left behind on earth. it's a scene where he has no dialogue, tellingly

You've got something there.

Harsher judgement as he went from quirky indie guy to mainstream without getting in any way more interesting or nuanced, so it ever was

i do wonder if the tight-lipped bloodlessness of his movies is a function of him being genuinely 'fuckin' humans, how do they work' or whether he's just massively emotionally repressed. if it's the latter i kinda hope he has some kind of breakthrough in the future and goes on to make a ruinous $350m expression of madness that makes jodorowsky look like chris columbus

well there's his dunkirk movie later this year that should at least not be a puzzle box script

lol funny you should say that

"The film is told from three points of view. The air (planes), the land (on the beach) and the sea (the evacuation by the navy). For the soldiers embarked in the conflict, the events took place on different temporalities. On land, some stayed one week stuck on the beach. On the water, the events lasted a maximum day; And if you were flying to Dunkirk, the British spitfires would carry an hour of fuel. To mingle these different versions of history, one had to mix the temporal strata. Hence the complicated structure. Even if the story, once again, is very simple."

http://movieweb.com/dunkirk-movie-story-structure-explained-christopher-nolan/

it will have a lingering shot of a disabled airplane languishing in the rain for about 15 minutes though I'm sure

idk remember that one about having to cross the river with the dog, cat and mouse all of whom hated their fathers

the twist ending leaked a few days ago

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/planet-of-the-apes-ending.jpg

jfc this guy

there should be betting markets on how long the camera sits on Tom Hardy's plane's empty gas gauge in the final cut of the film

i guess this movie will be like the acid test for the nolan aesthetic: is it possible to make a film about dunkirk and somehow end up focusing more on plot structure than on the humans involved?

can youse guys tell me what makes this movie so bad bc i actually happen to really like it

but willing to read why its garbage without vehemently refuting, i guess i dont feel too strongly that it is really good

but i also liked interstellar and the batman series

shit dawg am i emotionally repressed

lay on a glasgow kiss on me so i can feel again

I enjoyed Inception.

Up until the snow level

It's not even that the movies falls apart after that (though it kinda does)

It's that a guy wrote and made a movie that included a snow level

just because he wanted to have included a snow level

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Clicking on that is actually just you dropping to level 1

I havent seen inception since my initial raves but I have no problems with it as a movie, I guess with Nolan I don't care about his seeming disinterest in making films that are driven by realistic human behavior rather than driven by his plots or by puzzles. Cold and intricate (or "intricate") and cerebral (or "cerebral") action movies are his particular "thing" and he's good at it imo.

However he's also wildly capable of not being good at it, as evidenced by The Dark Knight Rises which is a genuinely weak and ill-conceived and thin and boring movie. Unlike his others (well the ones I've seen, I skipped interstellar and the insomnia remake.)

Dunkirk, who knows. Maybe the stranded soldiers will discover they're actually stranded in a Dom Cobb dreamscape.

Inception has 'breathtaking set pieces' but isn't a movie, also the snow level is probably the worst action sequence ever filmed

TDKR is possibly my OPO worst movie ever

Thing is that after memento his puzzles kind of suck and his plots don't exist it's just puzzles

Thing is that after memento his puzzles kind of suck and his plots don't exist it's just puzzles

Glitch in the inception there

r u on a higher level cuz i only see one

I remind people that The Dark Knight is still really good. But it's now a one-off in his ouevre nearly.

Still rep for The Prestige

i think Batman Begins is my favorite Nolan film because it's the one that's most straightforward, shows he can make a smart and fun superhero flick minus any puzzle trickery. i guess The Dark Knight is similar, the trickery is pretty minimal and it comes from the Joker so it makes sense in the end. The Prestige, also good. Inception is the least of his "good" movies maybe bc it is a wholly original story and set of characters.

Problem with batman begins is that al'ghul really is one of these villains that are completely laughable on film.

also all batman films have been superseded by lego batman

i think i probably like the dark knight the most of all of his movies but (as i think i've said elsewhere on ilx) it's a thrilling ride which instantly falls apart as soon as you start thinking about it afterwards. i guess that's kind of a hallmark of his films too

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I did this and fwiw my unfortunate memories of this thread were confirmed - loads of effusive praise. but this movie sucked and was Nolan's first real failure imo. It's been all downhill ever since.

oh man I was still on hiatus when this dropped
I had the correct opinion immediately after the credits

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^^^ directer's cut

leo is an uninteresting actor

Leo's best performance was in The Wolf of Wall Street, like the one role where he felt like the 100% perfect fit

Well also What's Eating Gilbert Grape

both otm

otherwise he's only good for hate-watching: dooly appointed mah-shals, breakdancing etc.