you can kinda see how some fucked up kid might draw the conclusion that hitler would make a good costume
better ban GTA while you're at it
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
1) algierz baller caricature stuff
i got given a heap of this stuff and i do admit, i only ever bust it out when the rest of my clothes smell, because i feel a complete twat in it!
― sfxxx, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
u musn't have been here long
― comment, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link
This is precisely what I mean: bad analogies.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost I do understand what "choke on cock" means though.
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
It depends how you're defining "cross-dressing". This is a HUGE subject, and needs its own thread, if it doesn't already have one.
I know I'm probably stating the obvious, but dressing in women's clothing because it fulfills some inner need or because it feels right are very different than dressing up in women's clothes to set out to mock women. For the most part, I'd say that people of either sex dressing in a manner that subverts traditional gender-roles serves to challenge patriachy, rather than to reaffirm it.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
That said, I think you might have trouble proving that transgendered individuals actually feel oppressed by gender signifiers they have chosen.
― elmo (allocryptic), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
It was in the UK -- I don't remember how their crazy grading system worked.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
transverstism!=drag
And transgender issues are another thing altogether, and don't really belong in the same conversation.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― elmo (allocryptic), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
your assumption would be wrong, for i know several people who quite enjoy choking on cock
― elmo (allocryptic), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
...and I'll reflect on this the next time I suck on a beernut.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
The situation you give is "drag", if I'm understanding your question correctly. The distinction is that the one is for "show" and the other is for more personal need.
I still don't really see that there's anything intrinsically offensive in a man wearing a dress. If it IS used to mock, that's another scenario entirely.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d9/StrongMad_BenWallace.PNG
― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Alfred Soto (sotoal...) (webmail), Today 10:18 AM. (Alfred Soto) (later) (link)
Explain to me how this is a bad analogy.
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost There is at least one religion where it's sacrilegious to write the name of God fully. It might not be offensive to you, but it is to them.
― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link