rolling china thread 2011

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"homer simpson car" is the guiding design principle for china

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://asiancorrespondent.com/59851/chinese-man-builds-home-made-ipad/

it's like cool, you spent all that time building a... windows tablet

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9FTPk.jpg

two trucks carrying 72 tons of dynamite explode at a gas station

like, really?

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

nakh, is this football with chinese characteristics

http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/01/shenhua_coach_invades_pitch_to_lift.php

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

there was a story many years ago about china taking its best football prodigies to some outback location in brazil where they were to be intensively coached by native talent, ready to explode onto the world stage about.....now, i guess

lol at homemade tablet w/ apple logo

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yW6Y54168&feature=player_embedded#!

Sébastien, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

two trucks carrying 72 tons of dynamite explode at a gas station

like, really?

― dayo, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

O_O

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

global times says:

Nobody likes trucks of dynamite exploding at a gas station, but China cannot singly pursue trucks of dynamite not exploding at gas stations.

dylannn, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

ahaha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-03/the-busiest-place-on-earth/3611032

I love the hell out of Mong Kok but I've never lived there (obv) and 4'11" 'er indoors couldn't see over the swarms of people. Didn't know until now that it's the densest human population on Earth but it's no surprise at all.

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/world/asia/03iht-letter03.html?_r=3

interesting look at chinese historiography

dayo, Thursday, 3 November 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/education/edlife/the-china-conundrum.html

I think this has the potential to be a really good thing! I'm totally cool w/ the rest of the world using the american university system as a luxury good, if it means we pay less. and a chinese 20 something probably is getting more out of the university of delaware than most americans there.

iatee, Thursday, 3 November 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f12279621o1p0.html

dylannn, Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

is that the woman falling from a bridge one? might need a warning.

dayo, Thursday, 3 November 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

I think this has the potential to be a really good thing! I'm totally cool w/ the rest of the world using the american university system as a luxury good, if it means we pay less. and a chinese 20 something probably is getting more out of the university of delaware than most americans there.

― iatee, Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

dunno if it's a 'luxury good' - a lot of times these kids are blowing through their parents + extended family savings. chinese families are willing to fork over a hell of a lot more for anything education related.

otoh, most universities in china outside of the top tier ones are frighteningly bad. and qinghua/beida barely crack the top 100 worldwide.

dayo, Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/11/04/human-rights-watch-reports-abuses-in-chinese-run-mines-in-zambia/

surprise, surprise, but q: are conditions in zambian mines better or worse than conditions in chinese mines?

also remember stories about chinese bosses in africa opening fire with machine guns on the disgruntled local work force, and getting away with it

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 4 November 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's a good point I was looking at this from the 100% 'what's good for americans' perspective.

xp

iatee, Friday, 4 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's a good point I was looking at this from the 100% 'what's good for americans' perspective.

xp

― iatee, Friday, November 4, 2011 2:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah. otoh I am pretty sure that the majority of these kids come from upper middle class and upper class families. after all they're renting apartments off campus! and I bet you'd see a lot of designer labels and luxury handbags if you could briefly survey them.

still though, it's a lot of money - $60k a year for four years = $240k, or about 1.5 million chinese yuan

the average college grad in shanghai makes 3300 yuan a month or about 6000 usd annually

let's assume that going to an american university triples your earning potential and you can land a 10000 yuan a month job or about 18000 usd annually

that's still not a very good return investment

but most of these kids probably go home to plush jobs in their father's factory, I bet, or maybe they just play a lot of ps3 and xbox

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/world/asia/the-privileges-of-chinas-elite-include-purified-air.html

lol - they don't even breathe the same air as the commoners

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

“They don’t have to eat gutter oil or drink poisoned milk powder and now they’re protected from filthy air,” said one posting on Sina Weibo, the country’s most popular microblog service. “This shows their indifference to the lives of ordinary people.”

the ccp hierarchs should take a lead from that japanese mp who drank fukushima water and publicly feast upon congealed poison milk deep fried in gutter oil

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

a big plate of thick sliced donkey dick tossed in congealed poison milk deep fried in gutter oil

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

there it is

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://images.buddytv.com/articles/Image/blinky-the-fish.jpg

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-independents-20111106,0,3629826.story

innaresting barbara demick report, independent candidates for people's representatives

dylannn, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, surprise surprise

kind of lol'd at this in the sidebar

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-jews-20111016,0,1440710.story

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

okay. is this kaifeng jews thing for real or not? i guess it doesn't matter now, since they've decided to go to israel and get into it. but i think even sidney shapiro, famous jew in china and scholar of judeo-chinese things, concludes that there were very, very few jewish families a long, long time ago and that there are now probably very few little scraps of history, like a surname or two, a street name....

dylannn, Sunday, 6 November 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles2/china.htm

kaifeng is beautiful btw if u are ever nearby.even if it doesn't have jews, it has a huge christian populationa nd the little alleys are full on sundays of processions of people going off to chruches, official and house. it's like the appalachians of china:; it's mostly fucking poor and the henanese have their accents made fun of and are the subject of tons of jokes and discriminatd against by hr people at factories down south where they go en masse 4 work. but if it's possible to say that a place "has nice people" you can say it about henan. and about most of the forgottoen brutally poor parts of central/western china.

dylannn, Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

haha every place that's not a city in china is like the appalachians

some thoughts about li keqiang's visit to HK earlier this summer

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MK01Ad01.html

think I posted about it before but it's a real fucking shame how quickly HK's leadership is falling into china's arms

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

I was sad that I didn't get a chance to visit the synagogue in HK before I left

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

you jewish bro?

dylannn, Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

i was trying to find the sexy beijing episode where she interviews her dad who was a refugee in hangzhou in the 40s...

dylannn, Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

no but there's a jewish side of my family

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.urbanphoto.net/blog/2010/12/09/judaism-with-a-hong-kong-flavour/

I saw it a few times from looking out the windows of buses but I never walked around that area, so sad

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GpZ20EYV2s

yo that dude went HARD

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

do i click play y/n

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

i dont like the look of that cunt whatever it is

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

the kaifeng seems like self-indulgence from some enterprising religious types trying to ~save the lost tribes~ and you really can't blame people wanting to leave impoverished home for a better life etc

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 6 November 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/682723/Ai-Weiweis-tax-evasion-case-takes-a-new-twist.aspx

I love the global times, it's like found poetry

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

forgot about the homer simpson shovel

All Hail the Chinese Military Shovel WJQ-308

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

compared to melamine in milk and gutter oil, this can't be called a scandal

dylannn, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

this is almost wholesome.

dylannn, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

yah but how about garbage soup

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/joelherrick/garbagesoup.jpg

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

okay back to subsisting on green tea ice cream flavor oreos and coke zero.

dylannn, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/12/how-walmart-is-changing-china/8709/

laughs:

the descriptions of "chinese workers, who are more used to drab frocks and olive-colored breeches, are now falling in love with the unfamiliar shades of capitalism, the vibrant pinks and greens that cloak the invisible hand of the market" are absurd.

the general weird shock at CHINESE PEOPLE CONSUME PRODUCTS LIKE WE DO AND GO TO SAM'S CLUB but--key difference--they call it SHANMUHUI hehehehehe.

"people's republic" scare quotes.

breathless descriptions of "but instead of doritos and tomatoes from peru, there are horse eyeballs on crushed ice, hog testicles in aspic, swallows nests (with living swallows still chirping within them!), and attention deficit razor clams"

the part about how wal-mart and china share an "ideology" (also put in joke quotes), because sam walton is like mao.

south park episode summary that would be too long for a wikipedia article.

the part about how america has turned the chinese off "leninism" by bathing them in "the solvent of the open marketplace" (not fake quotes this time).

okay, i couldn't get past the first page... maybe it gets better

dylannn, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

“Now, whenever we create a new towel, we always think about the environment!” pipes up Li Yongzhi, the assistant manager, reminding me of how the heads of Revolutionary Committees used to boast during the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution about how many jin of corn they could harvest from so many mu of land, under the guidance of Chairman Mao. “We have begun experimenting with such things as new fibers derived from bamboo, and even from milk, which we mix with our cotton stock so that it will be faster-drying, and thus produce more-energy-saving towels.”

dude fuck off.

In fact, one could say the same thing about China, which—after so many decades of defiant proletarian opposition to capitalism, consumerism, and American imperialism—has embraced the American-style market and is ardently following the Walmart path to prosperity.

actually there might be some interesting reportage on, like, middle class chinese consumer trends in this piece but good god

dylannn, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Liu Mei, who has adopted the English name Lucy, tells me how Walmart advisers initially visited the family-owned Dalian Xingyeyuan Group to explain how, by selling directly to large outlets, the business—and the co‑ops with which it worked—could be more efficient and profitable.

just a detail like that, about how she's ADOPTED an english name, just comes across so horribly patronizing.

In a Loftex conference room decorated with tabletop bouquets of plastic lilies, a Venus de Milo–like statue (with arms!), a cast-iron sculpture of a bucking bronco (homage to Frederic Remington?), and some abstract oil paintings, I ask the factory’s general manager, Wang Hongxing, a smart, affable middle-aged man in a dark suit and tie, if he was present when Lee Scott gave his 2008 Beijing speech.

ho ho! with arms, eh?

dylannn, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Liu Mei, who unlike her ancestors walks about in knock-off Adidas running shoes instead of the "long, stinking" foot binding rags, and has recently adopted Western dress, tells me how she has recently purchased a transistor radio and hopes to take part in "limited government-authorized market activities."

dylannn, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link


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