Mark Cousins' The History of film: An Odyssey

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i've missed em all by writing too much, i'll have to watch them in the middle of the night (after "the thin red line" HOW WILL I STAY AWAKE?)

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I was only partially watching, but an inspired move to go on about them -- he could've chosen to talk about a million other things going on in Japanese cinema at that time

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

distractoblogging

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

STOP SAYING RADICAL you nob

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Cinema

^Not heard of this...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

haha love the colonizers leaving scene in Xala

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

the diop interview's terrific -- i've seen sembene's yeelen but that's all, i wanted to see more (when i was writing about african pop) but they were nowhere to be found, easily

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

the colonisers leave but sembene wants a "radical enlightenment" -- all these directors are from francophone africa, ie have had a french secular ("enlightenment") education

cousins should be saying this; the directors are well aware of their own contradictions, the films are about little else

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

"radical enlightenment" <-- raw or cooked?

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Xala is on TV on Monday, btw.

Think I'm going to have to re-watch this on More 4 on Demand sometime. Lots of great clips.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Toasted?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

chas was a clean-cut gangster tho, & clean-cut in his notions of proper behaviour, masculinity, sexuality etc despite being a violent criminal. mick jagger danced around with flourescents to the last poets and was in bed with quite a lot of ppl.

zvookster, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

haha, ok busted, but i still don't buy that walkabout simply maps onto performance in an uncomplicated way -- jagger is the "cultured" "painted" creature and chaz the fellow caught in unquestioned ritual

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

cousins is great at stunt juxtaposition: jodorowsky is a magnificant (=insane) way to conclude this ep

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

ok i have to endure 2000 hours of t.malick to catch the start of this one now -- like malick, cousins's eye is superb; also like malick, he's a bit of an up-himself bonehead with a tin ear WHO I AM GLAD IS DOING THE STUFF HE IS DOING even if i get irritated by a good deal of it

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

Holy Mountain never appealed to me so I've never gone out of my way to see it, but he had to try and tidy up the identity narrative running through this ep somehow.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

"hyenes" looks like the best movie ever

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

i totally recommend yeelen, i loved it

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

whisky is a killer app, just sayin

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

but i am ready oh yes

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

it loooooooooked like our dreams

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

lars von trier is fat

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

"most people"

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

"big, brillliant questions" <-- stop saying "brilliant"

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

"das is mein mann"

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

fassbinder, you should have him the centre, he really really is

"sneered at its lies" <-- you are such a dildo

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

"performance" <-- it is quite a giveaway you dimwit dick

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

god i love fassbinder

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

all the right films, all the wrong justification

anthony easton art thou living yet

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

can't decide whether m. cousins or c. nolan's dreams are duller

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

of course cousins thinks herzog is germany's wild man. not fassbinder

"a dangerous idea that people tried to make safer" -- THOSE STUPID "PEOPLE" eh, thank god we are not that stupid

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

haha, no cousins is diligent -- he is a careful student of bredth, this is no bad thing (except in his own hippy head)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

this is a fabulous range and spread of films and ideas, cousins's panic comes with the narrative summary, he always reaches for the dreary USP, his instincts are good and then he markets them out of sight and mind

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

trust his eye and his instinct, not his words -- he is a crap writer

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

"influential" <-- not a word a a "radical" has intelligiible access to

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

KEN RUSSELL

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

haha

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

chas is a mod

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

"the most imginative shooting in the story of film" = oh wow it is powys square

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

i am drunk but cousins is dim

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

"clean middle class kitchen"

real working class kitchens are dirty and amazing

i love roeg (+early funny roeg) but cousins is so his target not his approved explicator

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

cousins is the screamy fat girl

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is ep totallty reminds me of my first three years in london, when my sister was at film school

"a bloke's film" -- oh sampaws

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical radical

MINIMATA, why not actually say the NAME, cousins you slippery coward

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

i am drunk and cross and suspicious

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

the shot he called the most imaginative in the history of film (mick jagger shot through the brain) now a throwaway bit of CSI...

koogs, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link

haha ok cousins not in fact a coward for not saying the word minimata, just a sloppy critic

i am hungover and contrite and forgiving

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

the shot he called the most imaginative in the history of film (mick jagger shot through the brain) now a throwaway bit of CSI...

― koogs, Sunday, 6 November 2011 Bookmark

A lot of it has been adapted by TV (and vice-versa). There was another clip on this that reminded me of another TV program as well. I guess in years to come that will be seen as a big gap.

Where did you get your film listings from, btw? Need to look up a few of these.

This was an excellent ep, the usual failings blah blah are there. I see he is covering the blockbuster and the minefield that is bollywood on the next one.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I'm quite sad I saw it backwards (tho needs must when x-factor drives obv): I wanted more on everyone he featured, and his "cool team (RADICAL) vs lame team (BAUBLE)" does him no favours as an explanatory set-up, but the first is a function of his ambitious exhaustiveness, which is the opposite of a failing, and the second you can override by just not listening to the content of his voice, just its lyrical rise and fall haha. I find his "europeans discover sex! africans discover themselves!" a wee bit troubling as a connective concept (he's used it more than once now), but I actually do think there's a potentially fruitful argument to be made there, if only as a critique of the unexamined shapes and habits 60s utopianism fell into -- cf the way lindsay anderson used the missa luba in if...., of course <--- LA being very sceptical indeed about 60s utopianism! cf my book on same ---:D

personally i wanted more critical -- as opposed to uncritically celebratory -- exploration of third cinema, but tbf this is a hard act to pull off: introducing something hardly anyone watching knows much about, then including all the things that are wrong with it alongside what's great... you really don't want the newbie's takeaway to be "don't think i'll bother"

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

You can't trust anything he says, is what's frustrating. Even w/Europeans his differentiation between Italian and German cinema seemed wrong. But he is trying to cover so much, must have been a nightmare to write any of it.

Fine w/him being uncritially celebratory. I strongly suspect that you couldn't get him to be anything else.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link


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