The TweakerSteve Jobs and the nature of innovation.by Malcolm Gladwell
― Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Monday, 7 November 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't he just write a piece on basically that (Xerox and PARC) a couple of months ago?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 November 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
The TweakerSteve Jobs and the nature of innovation (meth amphetamine).by Malcolm Gladwell
― ice cr?m, Monday, 7 November 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
imagine he pulled a few all nighters to get that piece out the door asap
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
piece is an extended metaphor comparing SJ to other guys who stayed up all night in their garage perfecting a new product
http://www.applegazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/jobs82.jpg
where is all my shit
― Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Monday, 7 November 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/bank-of-america-hired-malcolm-gladwell.html
― iatee, Thursday, 17 November 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
Steven Pinker writes that Gladwell is a writer of "many gifts... He avoids shopworn topics, easy moralization and conventional wisdom, encouraging his readers to think again and think different. His prose is transparent, with lucid explanations and a sense that we are chatting with the experts ourselves."[46]
― The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
an intriguing amalgamation of david brooks and xhuxk eddy
― mookieproof, Thursday, 17 November 2011 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
gladwell is all lolz until he writes abt something you know http://daringfireball.net/2011/11/getting_steve_jobs_wrong
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
mark ames gunnin for u
http://shameproject.com/
― goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
...and yasha levine, who is another exiled alum i think
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/06/malcolm-gladwell-unmasked-a-look-into-the-life-work-of-americas-most-successful-propagandist.html
didn't know any of this!
― goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
s.h.a.m.e. on u malcolm gladwell
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
theres some good stuff in there, itd be cool if they didnt use so much breathless conspiracy type logic all over the place tho, also a lil more context as far as how wide spread these types of behavior are
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
never read a gladwell tome myself; it's revealing enough to know that he was marinated in the same rightwing PR bootcamps that produced much more downmarket fox/radio/regnery types
― goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
gladwell is generally k a dubious character imho (although the s.h.a.m.e. people could def take some pointers from him as far as the efficiency of his prose) but im a lil bit skeptical of the guilt by association narrative they present here, couldnt you just as easily tell a young struggling writer attempts to break into industry story, and its not like they present a comprehensive biography of his formative journalism years so we can judge what % corrupt his upbringing was, also as far as his crimes in his present day media superstar manifestation there are like two sentences shown as proof of his utter debasement, i mean maybe theres more idk, i tend to think of his transgression as being more in the 'lightweight contrarian' tradition
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
it's a great piece if you're already predisposed to disliking gladwell, but i can't imagine it convincing any of his legion of fans
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
i dislike him, but i didnt think it was great, tho it did have some interesting facts
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
not only does he have an aesthetic style and fanbase that rankle me, but here's a bunch of evidence that show he's legit a bad human being!
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
1. he associates w/bill simmons
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
2. he wants our children to smoke cigarettes
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
The only MG book I've read was What the Dog Saw. It was obvious to me that he was not a reporter so much as an advocate, who began each piece with an pre-established thesis and proceeded to argue that this thesis was essentially the 'correct' way of thinking about the subject. Which is fine, in that the facts he gives most likely are genuine facts and they do support his conclusion, but you can be very certain that whatever he is presenting to you is carefully filtered to support his point of view and his rhetoric will enforce a tone of certainty that probably is not justified.
So, the best way to think about Gladwell is as a high class lawyer or public relations agent, where you don't know who his client is, and he pretends not to have one.
― Aimless, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
That's a nice way of reducing it, but when you get to that point, why even read what he writes?
Also re: guilt by association, the dude wrote a scare article where he advocates for people using a deadly product to save a government program. Imagine Swift writing A Modest Proposal with a straight face while on the dole of a human-meat-grinder company. How is his worst crime being a contrarian? Something serious needs to be missing in you to be able to write shit like that.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
when you get to that point, why even read what he writes?
You'll notice I only ever read the one book. After that, I stopped. I prefer a reporter who trusts me enough to make up my own mind, when presented with the relevent facts. Gladwell doesn't. He stacks the deck in favor of one conclusion.
― Aimless, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the big problem with malcolm gladwell is that even if you like or are impressed by something you read in malcolm gladwell, when you try to tell anyone else about it all you can do is helplessly repeat what malcolm gladwell said and what malcolm gladwell said it meant, because like aimless says nothing else has been provided; there is not a lot of room to move or to grow your own ideas or to have fun engaging w/ him as a public intellectual and there is a chilly clarity to his pictures of things and an absence of contradiction that is suspicious regardless of who pays his bills. then because malcolm gladwell is so super popular you end up w/ this nightmare society where everyone's standing around in bars saying things malcolm gladwell thinks to each other. that's how you really know he's a propagandist.
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it's that aspect that annoyed me the most about his writing (without being able to put a finger on it) and I could rarely make it through anything he's written. Maybe people like being told what to think... independent thought is hard and leads people to the meaninglessness of life which can be scary. On a side note, I would love to meet Gladwell at a party just so I could flick a burning cigarette in his afro and watch it erupt in foul-smelling flames.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
"the notorious National Bureau of Economic Research, an organization with ties to the tobacco industry and bankrolled by the biggest names in right-wing corporate propaganda funding"
Seriously? I can see why some people don't like Gladwell but that article is 95% hyperventilation: "OMG he quoted a research study in an article and that same research study was later found in the cabinet of a Philip Morris executive!"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Something serious needs to be missing in you to be able to write shit like that.
― Spectrum, Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:42 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
even if you like or are impressed by something you read in malcolm gladwell, when you try to tell anyone else about it all you can do is helplessly repeat what malcolm gladwell said and what malcolm gladwell said it meant
I don't think this is true at all -- one thing that's good about Gladwell (and other writers of roughly the same type like jonah lehrer, atul gawande, etc.) is that a lot of their pieces are driven not by "here's something a cabdriver said to me and what I think it means" but by academic research, which means that you can look at the papers yourself, and compare what they say with what Gladwell says they say. The actual research usually has tons of interesting stuff in it, only one little piece of which was used by Gladwell. I sort of think of that as Gladwell's purpose; he's not there to say "this is how it is," he's there to say "you don't just have to scratch your chin and call it as you see it, there are actually people around the world trying to answer interesting questions empirically and I'm here to give you a guide to some small part of that work."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
Also re: guilt by association, the dude wrote a scare article where he advocates for people using a deadly product to save a government program.
Seems to me he wrote an article that's been written a thousand times in other contexts, which is to say that our ever-increasing ability to prolong life creates gigantic public financial expense. Those articles aren't saying "Kill Granny," they're saying "We have to take increasing lifespan into account when making fiscal plans." It's not exactly false that states drastically underestimated how much money they were going to need to fund pensions.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
That's not in the article, and doesn't even make sense w/i the logic of the subject ... cessation of a life-shortening activity is what would cause the burden, not the additional extension of peoples lives in addition to the cessation. but w/e, I just like bashing dopey snake oil salesmen and their odd followers.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
here's the article
― Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
That article says exactly what I said it said, right down to every single quote being a variation on "obviously we should keep working extremely hard to prevent smoking even though it costs money to do so."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
I hope you don't really believe that.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Nevermind, a little switch-up ... thought you were referring to "ever-increasing ability to prolong life", which is usually about health advances as opposed to something like smoking. Second half of new comment, well yeah, that's what it's saying, but what's the effect of the article? It seems to take out one element of a cost-benefit analysis re: quitting smoking, and the way it's framed, that eliminated benefit is center stage as opposed to the benefits.
A frame is chosen consciously. It could have been benefit of quitting, harm of quitting, benefit of quitting. Much sunnier than harm of quitting, benefit of quitting, harm of quitting. This is totally hamfisted time killing shit, btw.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with you (re timekillingness) and will only say that yeah, I really do believe what I say; I am a pretty hardcore anti-smoker and I found nothing to object to in that article. I certainly don't see it as the kind of thing tobacco companies would relish -- their spin has always been "our product isn't that likely to kill you and anyway IT SHOULD BE YOUR CHOICE," not "Our lethal product kills millions of Americans and passes the savings along to you!"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
In the same way that a political campaign tries a variety of attacks on its opponent, in the hope that each attack will split off a few extra voters who were not touched by earlier appeals, any argument that tends to portray smoking as having benefits or quitting as having drawbacks will be welcomed by tobacco companies, even if they don't officially say it themselves. Political campaigns also use proxies for most of their less attractive attacks.
― Aimless, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
i am pretty pro malcolm gladwell but uhmmmmmm http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/festival/2012/10/video-malcolm-gladwell-on-the-civil-rights-movement.html
― unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Sunday, 7 October 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder how photography figures into his theory of strong connections in revolutions
― lag∞n, Sunday, 7 October 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
why would someone be pro gladwell? is it that you appreciate the artistry and manipulation of his storytelling?
― Mordy, Sunday, 7 October 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
Because his prose is good and he tends to report on interesting social science research with reasonably good fidelity to the source material. Isn't that enough? It already puts him in the top 5% of widely syndicated writers.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
were that true then yes
― lag∞n, Sunday, 7 October 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
i stand by that claim
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 October 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Why Come Black Guys Score Touchdown and White Man Kick The Field Goals" by Malcolm Gladwell
Lol
― Cunga, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://askakorean.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/culturalism-gladwell-and-airplane.html
― caek, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
i feel like my defense of malcolm gladwell in this thread is tainted by my parenthetical defense of jonah lehrer
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
gladwell repsonds
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2013/07/malcolm-gladwells-reponse-to.html
― caek, Sunday, 21 July 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link
haha i was rereading those slightly overheated exposes upthread and this excerpt from philip morris' list of "third-party messengers" made me lol:
Milton FriedmanSenior FellowHoover Institution on War, Revolution and PeaceMike FumentoSyndicated JournalistJohn FundEditorial Page WriterThe Wall Street JournalPenn Gillettemagician
Mike FumentoSyndicated Journalist
John FundEditorial Page WriterThe Wall Street Journal
Penn Gillettemagician
― """""""""""""stalin""""""""""" (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 21 July 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
ask a korean responds to gladwell's response
http://askakorean.blogspot.hk/2013/07/my-thoughts-on-gladwells-response.html
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 09:56 (ten years ago) link
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/david-and-goliath/ece560b4f11c7268bfa7b6258f6627fcd3110765/
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
Whatever you may think about Malcolm Gladwell, Yasha Levine is much worse.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link