the one time i took my mom out for indian food, the only thing she liked was the "pizza bread"
― Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah, pide. its great! and its so cheap and easy it kind of amazes me that it hasnt been exported to other countries as a late-night drunk food the way doner/schawarma has been
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
or maybe im thinking of lahmacun
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.tablehopper.com/newsletter/061205/zantes_large.jpg
for all not in the know... above is a pic of Zante's Indian Pizza in San Francisco. I have seen this ripped off by other local pizzerias, but I have never seen it replicated anywhere else in the US or in India. It differs significantly from Italian pizza - there is no marinara sauce, afaict they kind of use a saag-based sauce. and then there's cheese obviously, but the other toppings are usually tandoori chicken or lamb, cauliflower, onions etc It does not taste remotely Italian.
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think spicy food elevates your mood. When I down a huge Italian meal, I fall asleep.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
meat version = Topped with Spinach, Egg Plant, Cauliflower, Ginger, Garlic, Green Onions, Cilantro, Lamb, Tandoori Chicken & Prawns
xp
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
afghani pizza rules, shaped like a football
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
go long
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-grandmother-tries-indian-food,2472/
― enchilada sauce (get bent), Monday, 7 November 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
real life versus chinese takeaway
Indian or Chinese?
American Chinese food
(there are several more)
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
we need a "european/mediterranean vs asian-including-indian" food poll
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
blood sausage versus the world
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
why has british cuisine sucked for so long, is my question
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
I think I kind of like British food but I might just be perverse.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
i like scones
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
english breakfast!
i mean englands got nothing on italy or france or india but i think its been underrated for a long time now.
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
I actually kind of enjoy stuff like steak and kidney pie and haggis (the one time I had each of them). Big on ginger marmalade too.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
^^xpost that pretty much sums it up. was just reading on some US food blog that everyone was excited fergus henderson was visiting nyc and his food is the most english thing ever
― just sayin, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
i mean british people invented "things that are named like desserts but actually made of meat" which is a really impressive innovation
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't suck now -- after four of five decades of foodie agitation (and haha indian and chinese takeaways) -- and there've always been good pockets, but it was hit REALLY hard by the industrial revolution basically, and everyone flooding to the cities; and plus the fine eating establishments after the french revolution were basically all run by french ex-pats who'd been chefs for the aristos who had their heads chopped off
during empire, "takeout" meant we sent a gunship out to eg india and took their cuisine (curry, kedgeree and so on)
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
fine eating establishments^^^ie in england (well, london)
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
i suppose my point is that theres nothing inherent in british-and-or-english cuisine that would make it suck, so long as its prepared well. but i believe that it spent a century sucking because of bad chefs/bad reputations/margaret thatcher
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
I am late to this but I just read this upthread:
I just want to remind everyone that if you agree with Aerosmith on this thread you are agreeing with a guy who thinks now and laters are the pinnacle of human culinary achievement, standing above only bit O honey
I mean, how can Now and Laters be the pinnacle of human culinary achievement if everything but Bit O Honey is better than them?
― dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
1. Now and Laters2. Bit O Honey3. Saag Paneer4. Garlic Naan5. Chick O Stick
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
every ethnic cuisine in the world has copped to the fact that spices and pickling and fermenting are good things and make food flavorful and tasty and great
but british food, british food
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
currently lobbying to have the above ranking replace the US Constitution in toto
Bill of Blights
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
read a british cookery book in the 1930s and it's all nervously trying to be "french" -- escoffier's fault mainly! (tho he was good at this style)
the turnabout came after ww2, when english writers like elizabeth david started looking at european peasant cookery as the source of quality, instead of high-falutin fancy cuinse that few could pull off -- rationing during the war and after was the end of the low (and its nadir, probably), and it began a long slow trudge of a climb back to interest in cheap(ish) quality
thatcher is not actually the villain here, for once (she's not the hero either, just irrelevant: brit neo-foodiness coincided with her...)
xp spices and pickling and fermenting <-- dude, chutney! pickled onions, walnuts, everyone in the uk makes/buys a fvckton of this!
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
oh i was just guessing that it was maggies fault, everything else seems to be
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
pickled eggs!
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
i am not helping myself here i suspect
wow chutney was a british invention??
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
cheese, beer, whisky, cider are all fermented
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
even bread! bread is fermented
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
and speaking of cheese, it rules, and you cant find any of it in china, so lets call it even
not enough cheese in indian food either tbh
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
no, stolen from india (this was part of the problem, militarised access to all the world's foods) but pickling and fermenting stuff generally is a long-standing rural DIY activity
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
aero it is vital that we get yr opinion on Lik-A-Maid
(ps: INDIAN FOOD 4 LYFE)
― dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
stilton is english, right? thank you england!
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
glad to see all of you are agreeing to go on the cheese and whisky diet, sounds great
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/The_Tale_of_Ginger_and_Pickles_first_edition_cover.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
british cheeses are fantastic
― max, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
also as a happy paneer addict I really don't understand criticizing Indian food for its lack of cheese
― dense macabre (DJP), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
paneer is great, but there aren't a bunch of different varieties of indian cheese, is all i meant.
― horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
afaik anyway
I guess I'm just trying to understand why british food sucked for so long when france and italy were innovating up a storm during the same time period
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
really I'm just mad that america inherited the uk's shitty food legacy
we didn't need to innovate! during the upheaval of the industrial revolution, we could just help ourselves to an empire's-worth of excellence, plus many chefs fleeing from turbulent france/italy etc ended up in the uk also!
From wikipedia: Dates of introduction of various foodstuffs and methods to Britain
1492 to 1914:turkey: 1524[22]cayenne pepper,[23] parsley:[24] 1548refined sugar: 1540s[19]lemon: 1577 (first recorded cultivation)[25]peach (cultivated): 16th century[25]potato: 1586horseradish:[26] 16th centurytea: 1610 or later[27]banana (from Bermuda):[28] 1633coffee: 1650[29]chocolate: 1650sice cream: first recorded serving in 1672.[30]broccoli: before 1724[31]tomato (as food):[32] 1750ssandwich: named in 18th centurycurry: first appearance on a menu 1773; first Indian restaurant 1809[33]rhubarb (as food): early 19th century[34]three-course meal: about 1850 (developed from service à la Russe)[13]fish and chips: 1858 or 1863[19]Marmite: 1902[35]
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Marmite: 1902[35]
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link