'Excalibur' - Classic or Dud

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Well that's how I feel. P Jackson made some decent fantasy epics.
Boorman might have brought some of the oddness, passion and symbolism we see in Excalibur.

de, Monday, 3 May 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

Actually on the symbolism; very clearly Boorman's a bit of a Jungian. There is a book by Jung's wife on the Grail legend which must have played its part in the writing of this film. I don't mind, because it is very well done. Still walks that tightrope of skilful
allegorising and heavyhandedness though.

de, Monday, 3 May 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

It's got Liam Neeson in it, when he was just a puppy.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

A LOTR made by Boorman would have been rubbish. No way could he have dealt with hobbits.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 3 May 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, can you see something as domestic as hobbitry working in the framework of an Excaliburized LOTR? It would have had even more elvishness and pomp than the Jackson version (which I tht liked the elves too much anyway).

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 3 May 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

http://c-coy.com/media/reference/excaliber.gif

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i was coming here to post that

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

boing boing, right?

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

merlin amazed me as a kid in this film.

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, funny i have a DVD-R of excalibur just like that (proper spelling obvs)

cutty, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Now I want to watch this movie again

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Classic classic classic.

Another of Ebert's sins is giving this movie a bad review because he was confused about the plot. He was a bit foggy that day, I suspect, but I guess when reviewing movies is your job, sometimes you have a grumpy day at work.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19810101/REVIEWS/101010322/1023

kenan, Saturday, 13 March 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Pauline Kael reviews are rarely online, but she basically offers up this movie her breasts.

kenan, Saturday, 13 March 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm upset that the awesome gif above misspells "Excalibur".

kenan, Saturday, 13 March 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Are you the mother and father of the child now Merlin?

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 September 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't get throught this, don't know why. looks classic, but hasn't ever grabbed me from 3 or 4 attempts now.

k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

the Parsifal prelude just as Percival sheds his armour underwater and then enters the Grail castle

this sequence is great, the entire movie gets put on hold for a weird mystical sidebar

o_O facts: arthur's mother played by boorman's daughter

(e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The original cut of the film was three hours long.

would love to see this

(e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

boorman's output during this period also o_O

Deliverance (1972)
Zardoz (1974)
Exorcist II: The Heretic (1977)
Excalibur (1981)

(e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's a strange series of films. i like all of them, but only deliverance and excalibur are really successful, even if looked at solely in terms of their own ambitions. excalibur, though, is one of my favorite movies of all time. so ridiculously overripe.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

boorman's 1965–74 run is totally unfuck-able-with

would love to see this on the big screen

The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

out on blu-ray this week, tempting

I love priest but I've chosen maiden (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Remake on the way.

A Very Small Bag of Phrases (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

First "weird" film I ever saw, aged about 12. Still absolutely, unreservedly love it, and I chanted the Spell of the Dragon's Breath amid castle ruins only the other day!

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The wonderful score by Trevor Jones (Dark Crystal, Last of the Mohicans, Dark City) still awaits a legit release in any form. (In the film, chunks of Wagner are also used).

I'll take u down 2 the dark grosse chap L (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16727853

Nicol Williamson RIP. Always loved his take on Merlin. "A dream to some - A NIGHTMARE TO OTHERS!".

DavidM, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

Noooo! Sad news. I watched "Excalibur" for the millonth time just the other night. Truly classic.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, need to get the Blu-ray of Excalibur pronto. Really want to watch it right now.

DavidM, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

That's a good life: you're old enough to play Merlin, and then you live another 30 years.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

Finally saw this. What a weird movie. "Excalibur" is edited like a two hour trailer for a movie that was never completed, just a bunch of scenes and random dialog.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

i think it tells a pretty straightforward story and is propelled by narrative as much as lurid weirdness, but i've seen it like 10 times...

contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I bet it would play as well (or not well) on chapter shuffle.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

In a film of crazy scenes this is far and away the craziest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-pliu-57CE

ledge, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

edited like a two hour trailer for a movie that was never completed, just a bunch of scenes and random dialog.

actually it feels like an homage to the legend of king arthur books in that way, episodic, without a "modern" sense of how narrative works

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

They're showing this at the cheapie beer theater in Portland next week, I think.

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Someone should do a batshit sword and sorcery poll, if there has not yet been one. "Flesh & Blood," "Conan," et al.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

All sword & sorcery films of the 70s and 80s are batshit, in all truth. 'Hawk The Slayer'? 'Krull'?

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

the sword and the sorcerer!

contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

^have had in .avi form on my thumb drive since 2011, the right moment never seems to arrive

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sword and the Sorcerer has the most amazing sword ever depicted in cinematic history, and Richard Lynch. It's well worth your time.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

Sword and the Sorcerer was the first certificate AA (14 and over only) i saw at the cinema and it was perfect in every mentalist gory sword that shoots blades way possible

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

Most amazing cinema sword:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5u6vm44ak

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

also Disney made Dragonslayer for kids lol wtf picture todays Relentless-addled tweens sitting thru that one

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Dragonslayer has the best dragon, though.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

Sorceress and Yor!

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

oh i like Dragonslayer it's just fantastically gloomy and slow for a kids movie

Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Just found a nice Blu Ray rip of this, can't wait to see it again! This was one of my favorite movies as a kid (along with, yeah Conan & Red Sonja). My dad made us fake swords out of wood and I spent many a summer day with my brothers pretending to slay dragons and stuff.

I've been on a big MST3K kick recently and it's funny just how many swords and sandals films were made back in the day.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 August 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

None can top "Hercules" tho, imho. That movie is INSANE.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 August 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

I've only ever seen Hercules on Telemundo but it didn't make it any less crazy.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 August 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

It's pretty much swords & sandals meets Star Wars.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 August 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

The sheer amount of sparkliness in this movie is overwhelming. Also note that Liam wears almost the same outfit (with added sparkliness) in the Clash of the Titans remake.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 9 August 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

gets points for being made 7 years after Python

jeez, what an ass on Lancelot

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 February 2015 09:04 (nine years ago) link

some hip NYC dad brought his 9-year-old to this. haha, fuct for life.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 February 2015 09:07 (nine years ago) link

did not recognize Arthur as Derek Jarman's Caravaggio either

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

I thought the older gaunt & bearded Arthur looked very similar to his Caravaggio. The Lancelot actor died quite young iirc, well in his late 40's.

xelab, Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

The King is dead. Long live The King.

http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/may/03/nigel-terry

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 May 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Also a great Caravaggio. RIP.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 May 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

this is the best movie ever made

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

aka Boorman's Wagner mixtape - not watched it in years, but saw it a few hundred times in the 80's. It's ace.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 07:17 (three years ago) link

Those hairstyles are historically inaccurate, crimpers weren't invented till the 1970s

john p. coltrane in hot pursuit (Matt #2), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 08:24 (three years ago) link

a guy gets so horny he successfully gallops atop a mist and it's like the 50th wildest thing that happens in this movie

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:01 (three years ago) link

way funnier than monty python

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

without doubt the coolest Merlin in any King Arthur movie as well

calzino, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

without doubt the coolest Merlin in any King Arthur movie as well

It's the chrome skullcap that does it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

the Merlin actor (Nicol Williamson) was originally meant to do the seemingly cursed role that Ian McKellen eventually took in Apt Pupil. From what I can gather from imdb, first James Mason was approached for it but he shortly after died of a heart attack. Then Richard Burton was considered and died of a cerebral haemorrhage before he was approached. then Nicol Williamson (who was a boozer and smoking 80 a day at one point) is listed for the role on the abandoned Apt Pupil production!

calzino, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

I presume it was abandoned cos he died that year.

calzino, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

Might’ve mentioned this years ago upthread but Boorman’s commentary on the og dvd is great. Also, Mirren and Williamson didn’t like each other and that tension was there throughout the filming.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

need to hear that commentary

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

boorman would be a good candidate for the "people who have figured out how to live" thread

also I assume Ned already knows about this but:

Then there are the ones that got away. The hits (such as Rocky and Alien) he turned down because the scripts left him cold. Or the passion projects he was forced to abandon. Boorman estimates that he spent more time on the films that didn’t get made than on those that did.

In the early 70s, for instance, he corresponded with JRR Tolkien about a screen adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, a full 30 years before Peter Jackson brought it safely home. Boorman wanted to shoot the whole saga as a single three-hour picture. “I saw it as this big dystopian story,” he says. “And in this house, upstairs, we papered the walls with each scene. We’d look at it, stare at it and try to get some sense out of it. And I had all sorts of solutions. I was going to cast nine- or 10-year-old boys as the hobbits. Put them in makeup; beards and things. And then dub them with adult voices.”

Jesus, I say. It would have been a disaster.

“Yeah well,” he chuckles. “It might have been.”

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/feb/13/john-boorman-you-think-the-holy-grail-is-lost-no-i-have-it-on-my-piano

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

so many hoofbeats

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 08:51 (two years ago) link


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