2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

yeah otm, i meant obama and other politicians

i guess YOU should yell more abt this wouldve been clearer

I don't hear "obama/Dem pols should yell more about this" nearly as much as variants of "Republicans exist, so there's nothing Dems can do"

well that line of reasoning def has a disproportionate popularity amongst professional pundits, i think amateur pundits have a lot more faith in the bully pulpit

the truth is somewhat more complicated *pats self on back*

I'm not gonna watch that YouTube but Iowa State is an ag school for sure. Mrs. Aero worked on glycine max aka the noble soybean in their lab, they do a lot of research on g. max & corn & parasites etc @ Iowa State.

Oh, very true. I think of those as agriculture-related but not farming per se, if that makes sense. Farmers are the "live in the boondocks, wear overalls, vote for social conservatives" dudes that carry the stereotype, imo -- when you hear the generalizations about Iowa and farms and "they pick corn, not candidates, lol," I doubt many people are thinking of research scientists sequencing genomes, people in an urban/suburban area selling crop insurance, or the corporate offices of large ag companies.

fwiw, I went to Iowa State and the one year I was in the dorms, the dudes who were in ag business were kind of picked on as hicks.

On a semi-related note, I'm annoyed by the lack of understanding of the role and usefulness of unions. From what my card-carrying union friends have been saying, democrats are losing support from that sector more from the shortcomings of union leadership than from a real change in the voter base.

Also, I laughed pretty hard at the fact I completely forgot a state university. Sorry UNI! To my credit, though, most UNI grads forget about UNI.

i graduated with a kid who got a full ride to UNI and iirc he didn't go

From what my card-carrying union friends have been saying, democrats are losing support from that sector more from the shortcomings of union leadership than from a real change in the voter base.

Speaking as a (quite happily so) card-carrying union member myself, it can definitely come down to that. There was a LOT of frustration bubbling up in recent years given that our bunch was caught in endless negotiations that went nowhere combined with rather poorly handled PR mailouts and announcements that just ticked a lot of people off. Affiliating with the Teamsters smoothed a lot of that out and we recently approved a handy five-year contract.

Another issue, though, can be boiled down to the question of turf wars. This hopefully has also changed with the Teamsters affiliation but we'll see. Basically, anybody who found themselves in a position to be promoted out of the union to a different status via a new work assignment or a work reclassification often found that the union was essentially working against their interests because that means they would lose a member -- a couple of friends dealt with that for the longest time, to their increasing frustration. So if things like that are more commonplace than expected, I couldn't blame people's annoyance at all.

Affiliating with the Teamsters smoothed a lot of that out

haha I'll bet

We have some odd affiliations on campus here. When the grad students union came into being almost fifteen years back it was as an affiliate of the UAW.

oh look Bono likes Santorum

lol catholics

kinda wanna poll the awkward moments in this story

Santorum "has a kind of Tourette's disease," Bono told New York Times columnist David Brooks in 2006.

These three are winners from that Mitt story:

“The line? The DMZ? Is that it? No, I know what it is: It’s the emergency exit! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah. Ahh.”

“Ha, ha. Uh. I think landslides are terrific....I just didn’t, uh, see that in last night’s figures. I’m not sure about you. Ha, ha, ha, ha.”

“What a, uh, big night we had last night, or what a big morning we had, uh, last morning, this morning, in, uh, Iowa,”

I think that's about as much about Bono dropping names and at least as much about Bono's committment to Catholic 'caritas' as it is about liking Santorum.

"Hair Force One"

tbf it must kinda suck for mitt to continually be reminded that nobody likes him

well he still has a decent shot at becoming president of america, so

he doesn't have a prayer imho

let's hope fundies agree with that statement

Shakey just loves to crucify the Catholics.

not even clemenza will dispute this? it's the Dobbsey twin election, folx.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2012/01/mitt_romney_s_the_nominee_the_republican_primary_race_is_over_.html

Santorum has about $73 in his bank account iirc

wait didn't he raise a million dollars the other day

yes but he then spent it all on wet wipes

well at least he didn't waste it

Bono gave him money and now he can write it off as a charitable contribution.

http://www.rall.com/rallblog/comics/2012-01-04.jpg

lol not only is romney an objectively bad presidential candidate, hes a horrible candidate for right now

i mean just this http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/reverse-engineering-romneys-low-effective-tax-rate.php

yep Obama is gonna kill him on this out-of-touch rich robot shit

my friend is under attack for a Santorum tweet yesterday... of course he is now identified only as an "NPR and NY Times contributor."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2012/01/04/npr-ny-times-contributor-compares-santorum-harvey-milks-assassin

weird he wasn't identified as "Dr Morbius' friend"

OBAMASPIRACY

oh that is not "obama's piracy" btw

OBAMA SPI RACY?

Obama does have a racy private investigator, though.

Bob Wright c/o Sully:

I think viewing an anti-Romney holy war as the capstone of Gingrich's career gives short shrift to Newt's skills as a hatemonger. After all, Mitt Romney is only one person, and Gingrich has reason to be mad at him. The hallmark of truly vintage Gingrichian toxicity is the fomenting of hatred toward whole groups of people whom Gingrich has no personal reason to dislike. It isn't that he wishes these people ill; it's just that he would profit politically if they were hated more deeply by more people.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/newt-gingrich-a-hater-not-a-quitter/250879/

"I don't believe a Massachusetts moderate is in a very good position to debate Barack Obama"--that's it? That's the best you can do? You've got $10 million to burn in the next few weeks. Go find the people who did Hillary's 3:00-in-the-morning ad. I want dark, ominous clouds rolling across the screen...scary morphing...the Castaways' "Liar, Liar" blaring in the background...some truly vintage Gingrichian toxicity. Something. Anything.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/newt-tries-out-his-new-romney-bashing-stump-speech.php?ref=fpb

Sorry--the opening's there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8rCy173y7Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaK5pebdlXY

So really, why don't libs argue for Obama to use the bully pulpit? (My answer wd be that he's not an advocate for lib positions.)

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Kev, IIRC, argues for this all the time, among others ITT. It's always when I know the situation is hopeless.

Obama gave a million speeches on issues like healthcare and didn't budge public opinion at all; it still barely passed and most people hate it for the wrong reasons. In fact, most people barely know what's in the bill.

I guess there's an ok track record for Presidents using speeches to scaremonger the country into war. But for major political and social movements and changes it's mostly a fantasy.

most of the ppl itt who argue for Obama to use the bully pulpit do not describe themselves as liberals iirc

oh look Bono likes Santorum

lol catholics

― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, January 5, 2012 5:43 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I doubt this is a Catholic thing. Remember when Bono bro'd out with Strom Thurmond? If you're willing to work with Bono on anything he'll praise you for it. I also think he disarms these ultra-rightwingers by being so open to their support. I respect him for it.

most of the ppl itt who argue for Obama to use the bully pulpit do not describe themselves as liberals iirc

― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, January 5, 2012 9:33 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I didn't realize there was anyone itt who wouldn't describe themselves as liberal tbh.

progressive != liberal

I describe myself as smitten by Ginger. That's as much as I'll commit to.

square!=rhombus

well no, actually a square IS a rhombus

but is a square is a rhombus!