"Hipster" as pejorative.

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oh i haven't read that yet, i should. lagerfeld is awful. i mean i like some of his work but.. i don't know.. totally opposed sensibility & worldview, I think

daria-g, Saturday, 17 March 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

skot: don't get me wrong, i definitely preferred it when thrift stores were frequented by the insane, the elderly, and the infirm. they were just looking for belts to hold their trousers up. antiques friggin' roadshow fucked a lot of stuff up for a lot of people.

yes

daria: what that means is, i can sell an old hobo slouch bag or babydoll dress that's just an 80's fast fashion piece on ebay for what that means is, i can sell an old hobo slouch bag or babydoll dress that's just an 80's fast fashion piece on ebay for $100 because it's a hot trend, and take that $100 and buy a few beautifully cut and sewn vintage 40's dresses that fit amazingly00 because it's a hot trend, and take that what that means is, i can sell an old hobo slouch bag or babydoll dress that's just an 80's fast fashion piece on ebay for $100 because it's a hot trend, and take that $100 and buy a few beautifully cut and sewn vintage 40's dresses that fit amazingly00 and buy a few beautifully cut and sewn vintage 40's dresses that fit amazingly

i realize the thread here is some bullshit analysis of style and conformity, but the two of you are dead otm on another point, that fleas and thifts used to be a goldmine of sorts, and now less so, because people are not just buying for themselves, they're also buying what they they know they can flip for $$ to justify other, bigger purchases. the net effect is that the store owner with overhead can't just expect to breeze into a flea or some craigslist ad and make easy 11am scores, because the playing field has subtly changed.

▒█▄█ ▄▄ ▒█▄█, Saturday, 17 March 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

But jed, what about people who purchased every single object in their home from a single modernist boutique, just looked through the catalogue/store and bought three rooms worth?

what about them?

s1ocki, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

First of all they've have to be fucking wealthy, have you seen what Bertoia and Rissom go for these days? Christ. So basically that's nobody I know, and nobody I've been thinking about in connection to this thread.

Laurel, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

or live within 800 miles of an Ikea (replace boutique with superstore if you choose)/West Elm/etc.

what about them?

They're the archetype hipster-haters are thinking of (in terms of public presentation, not interior design), as I said in my next post: mostly strawmen, but hardly the "oh god everyone hates creative people" counterpoint anti-anti-hipsters offer up.

milo z, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

hipsters:Dwell Mag aesthetic::"nice pressed shirt and well shined shoes":The Room Store

milo z, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, whatever. A room full of all-new furniture from the same (or same family of) catalog/boutique is still fucking boring no matter who designed the pieces. That's not hip, it's just...aspirational.

I can't even tell what argument we're having anymore! Is that just my fever talking or has this thing jumped the daybed?

Laurel, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno! i guess i just have a hard time getting worked up about this stuff. i'm sure some people order rooms by the catalog just cuz they're too busy to think about every individual piece and they can feel comfortable knowing everything will look ok together. not what i would do, but i can't hate 'em for it.

s1ocki, Saturday, 17 March 2007 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

the store owner with overhead can't just expect to breeze into a flea or some craigslist ad and make easy 11am scores

well no, but given that the thrifts ostensibly are there in the first place so ppl without a lot of $$ can buy clothes.. i'm not feeling real bad about, say, the guy in alexandria va who runs a vintage shop & picks a good part of his wares from several thrifts around the block.. personally i only buy what i wear unless it's something incredibly special. or *maybe* a really hot trend. the stores with inventory and overhead don't turn around their merch as fast as the trends, often, or else don't even pay attention.. being accustomed to pulling wild 70's polyester and passing over hideous 80's glitter tunic tops.. but guess which one the hipsters might actually want

i'm kind of fascinated by it. there are vintage sellers who are super knowledgeable and particular about vintage & i do feel like it's too bad when carefully restored older pieces with amazing detail don't command the same prices as the item of the moment.. take ebay seller mama stone vintage.. most of that stuff is basically h&m style/quality, but they put it on pretty models and rake in the cash

daria-g, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

thrifts are still goldmines you just have to know what the gold is today & how to advertise, is all.

daria-g, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's the "hipster superhero" thread? I can't find it. It was funny.

Sundar, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.zoilus.com/rsz_cg0455riddle.jpg

jaymc, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

am0n, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

christ

latebloomer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

SOMEONE didnt get invited to the gallery opening!!!!

max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

omg, i am only a few paragraphs in and...wow

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Gavin McInnes, one of the founders of Vice, who recently left the magazine, is considered to be one of hipsterdom’s primary architects.

and what, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

“If only we carried rocks instead of cameras, we’d look like revolutionaries.”

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

no momus no credibility

max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Hipster Dom

J0rdan S., Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

& adbusters has the temerity to subtitle their march issue 'the reconquest of cool'

goole, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

explain to me adbuster

deej, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that a Thomas Frank ref?

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/Images/Products%5C226%5C260%5C9780226260129_m_f.jpg

jaymc, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Punks wear their tattered threads and studded leather jackets with honor, priding themselves on their innovative and cheap methods of self-expression and rebellion. B-boys and b-girls announce themselves to anyone within earshot with baggy gear and boomboxes

what?

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

explain to me adbuster

-- deej, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:59 PM

if you're familiar with 'buy nothing day' which is supposed to grind the capitalist consumer system to a halt, i believe they are the ones behind that

am0n, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

haha oh man i just decided to go look at momus's blog

We don't like how they make their great kids great

The Vice Guide to North Korea is a 14-episode account -- made at some risk to the journalists -- of a heavily-guarded journey through North Korea. I found it fascinating, but I did notice some dubious ideology creeping in, especially in Episode 12, A Schoolchildren's Palace, billed as "meeting the country's creepily over-talented future generation".

Here Shane Smith edged towards that journalistic-political cliché I call the "we don't like how they treat their women / children" school. Basically, the idea behind this move is that in any given culture, men are responsible for the ideology, and women and children are helpless victims and hostages. The implication is that, although the men are a lost cause, the women and children could be captured and brought to some other culture, where they'd be much happier.

This "much happier", in Smith's account of North Korean children, involves being a lot less motivated and talented. "One of the most fun-slash-sad times," Smith says in Episode 12, "was to see the best-of-the-best school in Pyongyang." After showing some child prodigies playing musical instruments larger than themselves, Smith decides that "it's so sad because these great kids are learning and learning for the state". But what's wrong with learning -- to exceptionally high standards -- for the state, and at the expense of the state? Are these children really to be pitied? Mightn't they be -- as well as "great kids" -- fervently ideological admirers of Kim Jong Il, believers in North Korea's superiority over South Korea, and convinced that their "creepy talents" could only have been advanced so far in the particular system they were born into?

and what, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus, i have my own personal issues with feeling bummed-out as what i see as a somewhat nihilstic streak which runs throughout much of "youth culture" nowadays, but talk about some absurd lazy-ass writing

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

#1 conversational turnoff for me these days when meeting chicks is when they start talking about 'hipsters' zzzzzzzz

happens far too often

deej, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

It...does?

Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

The half-built condos tower above us like foreboding monoliths of our yuppie futures

wow

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

has the writer of this article ever actually spoken with actual human beings before? also, i half-suspect that most of the quotes in the article are completely made-up

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It...does?

-- Laurel, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

It .... does. yes.

deej, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

“You’re not some club kid in New York in the nineties. This shit is so hipster!”

“He’s 17 and he lives for the scene!”

who honest-to-god really talks like this??

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

The American Apparel V-neck shirt, Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and Parliament cigarettes are symbols and icons of working or revolutionary classes that have been appropriated by hipsterdom and drained of meaning.

"I'm going back to the bar, do you want anything?"
"Yeah, get me another PBR, I've almost drained this one of all its meaning."

some dude, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know. Who talks about hipsters at all? I mean, like, out?

xp hee hee

Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Doug Haddow

Name:
Doug Haddow
Network:
Shell Oil

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

am0n, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

american apparel v-necks are symbols of the 'revolutionary class'?

max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

working or revolutionary classes
that's a damn big OR there

velko, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know. Who talks about hipsters at all? I mean, like, out?

actually, i totally know people who complain about "hipsters", but i think they are just being lazy in how they encounter and conceptualize other people

dell, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought V-necks were symbols of not wanting your undershirt to show.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

you'd think a shirt made by a company that uses sweatshops would have more working class cache than an AA shirt

some dude, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i went to a party with a friend of mine once and as soon as we entered this one girl who lived there squealed at him, "a hipster!" and just physically dragged him off to her bedroom for an hour.

omar little, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I'm totally lazy. It just seems like a...boring kind of thing that's been done to death, maybe? I mean I guess apart from maybe an eye-roll at the Pratt brats across the bar or something.

Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Laurel otm! now, rollerderby girls… I FUCKING HATE THEM!!

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i think people just like to project douchebaggery onto others and "hipsters" are the easiest target nowadays, like "yuppies" were in the '80s.

omar little, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

rollerderby vs kickball

am0n, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait for the blipster bingo remix of "lookin' boy"

some dude, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link


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