Subways are for sleeping: NYC Transit survival thread

B67 + M + D + F as E

But first I'm making bastard jambalaya w andouille. Sadly, out of shrimps.

-- Laurel, Wednesday, August 8, 2007 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

girl, we know you got a bike, GET PEDALING.

4-5-6 still not running, so i dont know if it's even worth bothering to try to get up to the UES yet?

i had no problem with L. F was really backed up but still got me to work. now i am angry because i'd much rather be home getting ready for 6 am departure to buffalo tomorrow.

between this morning and B*adrum, WORST NEW YORK SUMMER SINCE '77

8-8-07, never forget!

it's a damn-you-hadda-be-there urban legend.

No bklyn bound ACE.

God damn the L for being the one running fine, I could be at home right now with the dogs.

i don't know if i bother trying - it sounds like the L is running but i imagine i will be fucked at union square.

Yeah I think you're right.

We failed to give enough props yesterday on Sea Serpent Day so now they're running amok in the tunnels.

Number 7 to Times Square then Number 1 one stop to 34 Street and then I walked downtown.

have fun in your 100-degree afternoon, new yorkers

Where are you now in your travels, Tracer?

white city!

Lisboa?

MTA > viceland > blogger's sense of entitlement

Wait, you live on the 7 line?

I usually take the E or F at Roosevelt Avenue.

eeww it's supposed to be that hot here today? i rly don't know how much longer i can do this. it's gotten to the point where i can't SIT DOWN IN MY OFFICE with HEADPHONES on. i'm actually afraid the humidity will ruin my headphones. it's driving me crazy. where the fuck did the days of central air go? HUH?

I went back to Queens last December, Chris, remember? Or maybe I didn't tell you.

I'll be taking the 7 to Shea for tonight's game (if anyone wants a drink in Jax Heights around 11, talk me into it)...

No, welcome back!

I am not leaving the goddamned air conditioning today.

morbs, after arriving at the office

http://images.worldcupblog.org/ira/P_Rodney_Dangerfield_1.jpg

this summer has not been bad at all, people, stop being so dramatic

i know it hasn't been that bad but listen i'm on the top floor and it's ALWAYS RIDICULOUS humd inside, much more hot and humid than it is OUTSIDE! i HATE that!

i think it's worse than last summer tho

The Fourth Avenue / 9th Street N/R/W platform was a FUCKING TREAT. The air was raising bruises on people.

this is why you never live on the top floor, surmounter

(i live on the 2nd-to-top :D)

GABBNEBD HOW DO I GET TO UES

ARE 4-5-6 TRAINS RUNNING

this is why you never live on the top floor, surmounter

This is why you never live in New York, even.

I am working from home with liv rm AC on -- it is puny but keeps the room totally livable if I wear shorts & don't move too fast. It's kind of a treat, actually, and will give me time to run out my dry cleaning, errands, etc today!

im gonna try to go in now :/

there must be a few buses to choose from if the 456 is down linds

Bell-- no 456 as of 11:45

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_08_ihaz2.jpg

I just walked into work with such a massive messenger-bag sweat-sash across my shirt that people awwwwwed at me like an infant.

We should all be praying that terrorists don't ever discover the secret to making it rain FOUR inches.

this summer is more humid but last was by far hotter. it hasn't been that bad. i still wish i'd not been able to get to work, though. instead i'm cranky and i yelled at the new girl.

Hour of rain brings city to halt, C'MON BIN LADEN

i was actually wondering if the rain wasn't a good cover for them to shut everything down because of some supposed terror plot.

I dunno -- they seem to have been pretty consistent over the past years about, you know, any kind of rain, simultaneous air-conditioner leakage, excessive urination, or unpredicted dog-drool shutting the whole thing down.

i was only half an hour late; took bus. amazingly angry crowd.

of course our phones are fucked up at work again, like they are after any major storm.

i dunno man i didn't think last summer was that bad. there was that hot 10 days or something. i erally don't know i get my heat and humidity confuse.d

yes, top floors -i went to a friend's on the first floor the other day and it was so friggin cool. ugh

i took the L to the R, which was stopping at 57th & 7th ave, walked over to madison, took a local bus up 20 blocks. not too bad and i probaaably should have done that a few hours ago. shrug

i hope they fix it by tonight though.

I hope I don't have to take a ferry to Shea Stadium.

Amid the commuter havoc, M.T.A.’s website, mta.info, shut down. It was the second time in several weeks that the website was not able to function during a transit crisis. The last one was during a minor blackout on the east side of Manhattan several weeks ago.

Haha I am working from home!

this summer is a notch warmer on average than last year, despite the absence of sustained ridiculous heat, but it's nothing like '05 (or '02 (or, especially, '99))

(so I guess next summer's gonna be ridiculous?)

(especially if we transition to la nina)

Sudden reversal on congestion pricing is bizarre.

A friend who I’ll just say has a legit source of this knowledge explained to me that the MTA has already been spending as though it would get this extra billion per year in revenue that it’s now not going to get. Total shitshow.

absolute gutlessness by hochul and everyone else on down

oh no, what if new jerseyans can't have to pay a toll to visit manhattan diners! what the actual fuck

truly truly maddening.

https://washingtonspectator.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/hochul.jpg

otm

oh no, what if new jerseyans can't have to pay a toll to visit manhattan diners! what the actual fuck

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 02:45 (ten hours ago) link

Tbf, they already pay a $16 toll to visit Manhattan

They should take the bus.

Tbf, the current tolls, at least notionally, have to do with the cost of building and operating expensive bridges and tunnels, and other activities of the Port Authority (which, at least notionally, are specific to NY-NJ relations). Congestion pricing would have to do with the currently externalized costs of packing cars into Manhattan, and would apply to vehicles from anywhere, not just New Jersey.

Thought experiment: in a world where CP already existed, but there was no way to drive across the Hudson, I think it'd be pretty reasonable to suggest building some tunnels or bridges, and charging tolls to use them.

One of the things that pisses me off wrt lawsuits and complaints and all that shit is that TOLL ROADS ALREADY EXIST. CONGESTION PRICING IS NOT NEW TECH YOU ABSOLUTE MORONS.

The rationales for killing it don’t make sense to me. They could have run it for a year and if it wasn’t having the desired impact or was having unintended negative consequences, they could have paused it.

There’s a lot of speculation that it’s really just about avoiding an election issue republicans can beat up democrats with.

that's absolute it, innit?

the version i heard is that Schumer and/or Jeffries leaned on her, with this specific notion in mind. it really makes very little sense otherwise; just a few months ago she was very clearly defending the program and articulating its rationale, and then the reversal announcement is illogical gobbledygook. the recent War on Cars episode lamenting the announcement covers those bases pretty well.

def was Jeffries

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/05/new-york-city-toll-hochul-democrats-00161930

and if you need a side-by-side comparison between what she said 6 months ago and now, Gothamist did a good piece on it:

https://gothamist.com/news/watch-gov-hochul-debate-herself-when-it-comes-to-implementing-congestion-pricing

the Gothamist self-debate video is brutal

A friend who I’ll just say has a legit source of this knowledge explained to me that the MTA has already been spending as though it would get this extra billion per year in revenue that it’s now not going to get.

...on unnecessary and disruptive station makeovers in wealthy parts of Manhattan, as usual

One big consideration is the renovations that were going to improve ADA access, like elevators, and the list of planned improvements is at https://new.mta.info/project/station-accessibility-upgrades#:~:text=As%20part%20of%20our%20long,an%20additional%2078%20subway%20elevators. It's not majority in Manhattan.

I don't think it seems outrageous for the MTA to plan for this revenue ahead of time, these projects can take years and the contractors & partners they need to do the work probably schedule their jobs far in advance. Also--congestion pricing is LAW. It wasn't unreasonable to expect it to go through as promised, because it is legally required for the MTA to produce this funding somehow.

for reference, the MTA's 2020-2024 capital program covers quite a range of things which are now in jeopardy. if you click through to the PDF, you can see that $15 billion out of the $51 billion five-year plan was to come from CP. here's what we'll probably lose, just from the highlights page:

The 2020-2024 Capital Program is:

• The MTA’s largest-ever capital plan by far – 70% larger than the 2015-2019 Program – making unprecedented investments in the region
• An unprecedented investment of $51.5 billion, including more than $40 billion for New York City Transit – revitalizing the system and building on the successful investment of the Subway Action Plan

The Program will deliver major benefits, including:
• More frequent and reliable service on 6 line segments, including the Lexington Avenue Line, serving over 50% of riders through modernized signaling
• 70 new ADA-accessible stations, beginning now. Stations serving over 60% of passengers will be ADA-accessible
• Over 1,900 new subway cars, more than 2,400 new buses and hundreds of new commuter rail cars
• Full funding for Second Avenue Subway Phase 2 and construction of four new Metro-North stations in the Bronx

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Hochul has another bright idea about the subway