I hear that 923% of northern Africa prefers salted butter.
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard that 74% of people make up statistics to support their arguments.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Dan what's the margin for error on that one
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
tipsy, those activist types you know may watch Stewart and Colbert, but they're maybe 1% of their audience.
don't confuse correlation w/ causation
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I think most of the audience knows about Alberto Gonzales' congressional testimony, and thinks "What can I do? NOTHING."
but what are you basing this on??? this is like some ilm threads where people are like "all those other people besides me who say they like hip-hop/m.i.a./radiohead like them for the wrong reasons!" i'll grant you that the only colbert/stewart fans i know are the only colbert/stewart fans i know, and maybe they're somehow an unrepresentative sample. but i don't have any reason to think that, and i'm not going to go speculating about some strawman audience of slackjawed dolts who somehow tune into political satire in lieu of political engagement. wtf else are politically engaged people supposed to be doing at 11 p.m.? holding candlelight vigils outside samuel alito's house?
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Morbs did you see the last McCain interview? They might be friends but it wasn't exactly softball as I recall.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know if I saw the last one, but I think the only defensible interview he could do with McCain is one where JMcC is so angry he never returns. "Hey, nice move giving legitimacy to Bush's fake-antitorture bill through! Did the VietCong remove your spine?"
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tips, I'm basing it (partly) upon what Generation iPod is like. It's not a strawman; Comedy Central has a large audience, hence there are a lot of slackjawed dolts watching.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link
now you're just doing your grumpy old man thing.
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
If the audience for "The Daily Show" is the same as the audience for "Mind of Mencia" I'm gonna cry.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm basing it (partly) upon what Generation iPod is like. It's not a strawman
you're forgetting one thing: THE JUDD APATOW FACTOR
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link
YOU, have a superbad birthday.
it's not a thing, it's me!
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
this is what the kids today all look like to morbs:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/thefed/v2/archives/19/19.3/images/hipster.jpg
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
tipsy, those activist types you know may watch CNN, but they're maybe 1% of their audience. I think most of the audience knows about Alberto Gonzales' congressional testimony, and thinks "What can I do? NOTHING."
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link
morbs you were funnier the first season. you need a wisecracking sidekick to liven things up. or maybe an adopted war orphan!
― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link
remember friendster? Oh man, those were the good ol days. Life was so simple then.
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link
put a Yankee cap on that illus and you have max.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, I assumed Generation iPod was a concrete group or site or something. lololololol
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
those activist types you know may watch Stewart and Colbert, but they're maybe 1% of their audience. I think most of the audience knows about Alberto Gonzales' congressional testimony, and thinks "What can I do? NOTHING."
I don't think anyone's trying to argue that watching the Daily Show instantly confers upon the viewer automatic Uber Activist status. I think it's more like: okay, watching the Daily Show doesn't necessarily, automatically mean you're politically engaged. But it doesn't automatically mean you're not, either. If I could draw a Venn diagram, I would.
― franny glass, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.someecards.com/filestorage/spo_17.jpg
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
put a Mets cap on that illus and you have Morbs
― max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
that guy up there with the duct tape wallet seems pretty cool. wearing the iPod with no headphones and the broken watch is an effective statement. the camera should also have no battery, and he should also carry a prepaid cellphone that has no minutes on it.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I should start secretly working out myself
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
when is the ideal time for secret workouts
I wouldn't know. I prefer loud, flamboyant workouts. Out and proud, baby.
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Friday late-night workouts, everybody's doin' it
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
calisthenics after happy hour is a threat to ligaments everywhere
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
i would imagine 3 am is the most secretive hour to have secret workouts.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, but then you just feel dirty and ashamed
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
kenan you always feel like that
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
no, but i really ought to
― kenan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
wait... is "secret workout" a metaphor for something here?
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
why are we debating with morbius about political efficacy and civic engagement?
― gff, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
because it is the month of halloween, and we need to get back in shape
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link
funny we haven't mentioned colbert's apparently real actual PRESIDENTIAL RUN. i give it a big thumbs down, seems really really lame and pointless to me. those movies where a regular dude/comedian runs for president are always bad, for a reason
― gff, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Satire is always as sterile as it is shameful and is impotent as it is insolent. - Wilde
― gff, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Satire is always virtue's friend. - Charles Churchill (neva hoid of him)
i'm wearing cords.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
My family back home got cable recently and every time I talk to 14yr-old brother on the phone, we talk about Daily Show/Colbert. It's actually got him following/interested in politics, which is more than I can say of myself at that age...ie it requires a little more political savvy for a young person than the 'political hummor' I watched at that age, which requires understanding of things like "Janet Reno isn't pretty, and that's why she is played by Will Ferrell." Well, I think that's good for the little brother, esp. since he is in Hicksville, population: Mormon-thousand.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
He will surely learn the art of rubbing his eyes in mock surprise.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the idea that TDS/TCR are turning all these potential political activists into defeatist couch potatoes but not the other way around.
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean obv. it's not converting South Park fans to liberal activism by the thousands but I doubt it's making them LESS interested in politics
― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Good work, guys. For serious, this is thought-provoking.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link
ok just now when Colbert was corpsing and getting himself bleeped while trying to blend the berenstein bears book into a smoothie was genuinely enjoyable and funny. The filling out the applications to get on the primary ballots in SC, not really funny at all. The pure comedy is so much better.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
gff i don't think those two quotes are contradictory
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link
mentioned this on the Lost thread but the entertainment industry's been gearing up for a writer's guild strike for a while now. they're saying it could happen as early as the first of next month or as late as july next year.
personally, i don't think it's going to happen, i'm pretty sure they'll work out their contracts with AMPTP soon but if it does, a lot of tv programs are going to be affected. Dunno about you guys, but as bad as TDS/TCR have been lately, an election year without them would suck balls.
― Roz, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah the application filing was a nowhere bit. Eh, what ya gonna do.
And let's not forget: he's not running for president, he's running in the SC primaries, and BOTH of them. That's kinda funny. He told Terry Gross the other day, "South Carolina will allow you to run as both a Democrat and a Republican. Of course, they'll also let you marry a 13-year-old girl."
― kenan, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel the opposite way as Tombot! the bit where he's haphazardly filling out the presidential application had me cracking up; while alot of the straight comedy bits (and things like Tek Jansen) don't hit the mark for me.
I think the main reason Colbert has cooled off is that people know who he is now. His interviews and Better Know a district bits were awesome, when he'd sit with these people who clearly had no idea what they'd gotten themselves into.
The correspondents dinner seemed to have ruined that.
but it was worth it.
xpost :(
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
is he even still doing BKAD?
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
tracer i don't think their contradictory either
― gff, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link