things you're secretly kinda fascisty about

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also rich people should be illegal

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

to clarify i am against the drug war and the way it's been executed but i'm not willing to swing in the other direction, personal experience w/things sort of trumps s3 of the wire for me

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

*swing entirely in the other direction

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i'm not in favor of legalizing drugs either

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

well duh, cause nobody would need a pharmacist

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

you wanna be the only oxy dealer in town

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

I've secretly wanted everybody that disagrees w/ me to be dead

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

then usually i wake up in a cold sweat many miles away from home

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

i am not in favor of legalizing all drugs. only certain drugs. and i'm totally cool with them turning into profitable industries as a result. look forward to the day when "big buzz" has lobbyists defending the placement of weed vending machines in school lunchrooms.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

oxy and prostitutes, see your friendly druggist xxxp

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

i'm honestly cool with all drugs being legal just cuz i'll be loling when drug dealers move onto other product like kazoos

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

zachylon, legalization of a drug doesn't require it to be unregulated. I imagine that heroin, if it became legal, would be treated more as a state monopoly than as an ordinary consumer product, with colorful packaging, a dozen flavors, and glossy full-page brand-driven magazine ads.

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really support state monopolization either

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

and i'm talking abt amurrca here -- anything that is regulated can quickly become unregulated given the right congress/potus.

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/vSLmq.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno I can imagine some interest groups that would be against heroin being legally purchased at a gas station

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

by interest groups I mean 'basically everyone in america'

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

true. but i'm still going to be fascisty about it.

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really support state monopolization either

well, wishing real hard that it will all go away on its own doesn't exactly work, you know.

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

there are more than two options available. there are plenty of countries with fewer drug-death rates than the US that got there without legalizing everything.

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

tell me more

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

people who die from use of the drug are just a small piece of the problem

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

i'm all for legalizing drugs and using tax proceeds to fund free rehab for anyone who wants it. which sounds crazy but its better than the body count/generations in prison/corrupt for-profit jail/police seizure racket going on now.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

FYI, FMLA leave only applies to companies with over 50 employees and to employees who have worked a certain number of hours in the past 12 months (works out as roughly part time). So no dice if you work for a small company or if you can't get enough hours or got pregnant right after you started working. And as it's for all medical leave, if a woman has a complicated pregnancy and needs bed rest for the last month, for example, she's already used up 1/3 of it before that baby is even born.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

yes if drugs were legalized free rehab would have to be a big part of it, but again, american govt -- there is too massive a section of our political spectrum who would demand that free rehab be cut in favor of tax cuts to the rich. nothing is set in stone.

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

xp Despite all that, it's still one of our better employment laws because a employee can sue for triple damages of she can show that an employer willfully violated the act. :|

carl agatha, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

close every single wal-mart forever

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

i'd be willing to support a flag burning amendment if it included a proviso that all confederate flags must be forcibly confiscated and publicly burned

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

xp

just need to be sure you understand that people will continue to use drugs of all sorts, regardless of legality or not, ease of access or not, free rehab or no rehab, or whatever song and dance society attempts to use to control drug use. people have always used drugs. every culture has its approved or tolerated drugs. whenever new drugs become available in a culture, no matter how dangerous, that drug finds new users. the only relevant question is not how to stop people from killing or harming themselves with drugs, because you can't do that (except as a goal you will often fail to achieve) but how do you keep the damage down to the smallest social cost.

hating that drugs foul people up and ruin their health and dull their minds is not a position on what to do about that. Legalizing, at its very root, means you stop regulating drug use by treating users as criminals and locking them in prisons. After you accept that idea as sensible, then you can try to construct a different approach to minimizing the social cost of drugs... or else you can stick with making criminals out of users.

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

as i said, i am against the drug war. i don't believe in the lock-everyone-up philosophy. i don't think that that is the answer. i also don't think that full legalization, even well-regulated legalization is the answer. i don't know the answer. policy isn't something i think about, i only think about where drugs are in my life and the part they play. we disagree, but can we at least agree that there are more than these two black and white options you're assuming i consider?

if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

i'm just sick of industry and government making money off of misery. billions spent on keeping the drug war alive. in my fascist state the government doesn't make money off of addicts or dealers or cartels or the mob. it can take the revenue generated from taxed legal product though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

banning the lottery too.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

smoking should be banned everywhere but in private homes.

The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

we would burn all organic crops and replace them with genetically altered food. we would ban all public, private, and imaginary displays of sentimentality.

we would tear down the rainforest and replace it with a power plant. we would ban dancing, non-electronic books, pornography and wood.

Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

read that as 'non-pornographic books', nodded

boxall, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

your insolence has been noted

Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

my boring/obvious fascist platforms:
-every fucking region/city/town/outpost of every state, gets basic fucking internet access. guns will be pointed at heads of wireless companies and they WILL go into the mountains of W.Va and eastbuttfuck nowhere because i motherfucking said so
-Child Protective Services becomes a division of Delta Force, and get whatever goddamn money, time, and intelligence they need to put fear in the hearts of child abusing assholes

crazy IA platforms

-all bicycles are fitted with electroshock triggers so that when cyclists fail to obey BASIC ROAD RULES they are electrocuted.
-outlaw out-of-season tomatoes
-out of tune whistlers and out of time handclappers are captured and funnelled into an underground labor camp
-jaywalkers shot into the sun
-FINALLY AN END TO BROCCOLI

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh that gives me some ideas for the libertarian thread

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link

Would it be acceptable to just keep the brocolli hidden when you come to visit?

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link

NO

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

  • Hate speech should be a crime punishable by jail time (obviously the problem is who decides what that encompasses)
  • The fee for littering should be so exorbitant so that no one would ever do it ever.
  • Education post high-school should be FREE.

tanuki, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm kinda for the Judge system in Mega City One. If someone is witnessed commiting an act of physical or sexual violence, that person is summarily executed. Orrrr maybe just sterilized. Maybe we can weed the better part of that shit out in a few generations.

Any televised news must be like C-SPAN (i.e. no flashy graphics, music, movement of the camera). National political candidates are allotted, say, five debates and five town hall-style meetings in this format. All other campaigning/coverage/expenditure of political monies is illegal. Term limits are eliminated. Probably some more iron fist regulations I haven't considered yet.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

Oh. People need to pass some basic civics test before voting. Maybe they're required to have watched a certain number the aforementioned debates/town hall meetings, as well.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

just make them pay a fee

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link

I'm for a civics test as long as it includes stuff like 'does lowering taxes raise revenue'

actually I'm cool w/ that being the only question

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link

k3vin is the least fascist person on ILX

boxall, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

haha my bad i guess I'm ruining the fun, can't tell if this is supposed to be like "hahaha i'd freaking shoot all republicans, you know?" or if people are actually serious about these. i have lots of these obv many of which have already been mentioned

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link

well you can't shoot the republicans if you banned guns in the other thread

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

i dont really care what ppl do or think or drive as long as they dont exist near me

(_()_) (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link


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