can you say more about what you mean?
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
NO!
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
haha. it's tracked and tiered in Europe, right? i have only the vaguest sense of how it works.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol, just being fascist
idk either tbh. or if it's better. but my fascist impulse is that not everyone is really cut out for 'higher learning' and so it's a big waste to try to jam everyone through it.
you'd need a really serious moon-shot national effort to overhaul elementary ed, and to really track kids into and out of the right places. educational privilege must be broken, but that does mean a lot of kids not going to arizona state anymore etc
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
there's a libertarian side to that too
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
what w/ student loan programs etc.
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i can see how that makes sense but the actual practice of tracking is kind of hairy.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
idk you don't have to call it tracking, you can call it '4 year degrees not necessary for all americans'
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
right that might be more achievable, anyway
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
also de facto tracking happens anyway :(
anyway anyway anyway
what about student POGROMS
I mean, this is the fascist thread after all
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
/sorry
haha
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, I might be wrong, but what I think you mean by 'tracking and tiering' isn't the answer to too many people going to university. It's a method of filtering, sure, but it's mostly a terrible method that is already biased from class perspectives.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
yes but if i were dictator it would work out great
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
― emil.y, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:01 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this is basically the problem. race perspectives too.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
well we have enough college educated white people so i would put the kibosh on that for a while
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
the prob is even worse when you're funneling poor people into for-profit degree programs and people are defending it for equality of opportunity reasons even if large amounts of debt might be a pretty bad way to go about equality
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
you're definitely right about that
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
conversations about fixing education always have to become conversations about fixing everything else
but that reminds me, in my fascist regime, the university of phoenix & c. are going down
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
i guess that's not challopsy enough
i thought i was going to be so good at this thread
lift ur game, horseshoe
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
cap executive compensation for any company receiving any sort of aid, subsidy, grant or tax break. companies may be eligible for such things, but only if they cap salaries at (say) 1M/year, all bonuses, benefits and perks included. which might sound like a lot, but relative to what many CEOs and top execs make nowadays, it's a pretty drastic cut.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
companies who do not cap income have to pay a flat rate of like 40% on gross earnings, no loopholes or deductions for anything.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
contents: one proposal (modest)
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
Compulsory voting
― Jedmond, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
all humans should be eliminated
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 07:59 (twelve years ago) link
I held back on making this cause secret libertarian fantasies are a lot more shameful than secret fascist fantasies
― iatee, Monday, February 13, 2012 6:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol i feel the opposite and i feel like this is a mutually revealing thing somehow
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
like my secret shameful fascist fantasy is that everyone should receive the kind of education that lets them debate submerged state policies on really wonky details by the watercooler
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
I'll admit I'm way more stunned by things people are saying on this thread than on the libertarian thread, mostly because I didn't think ILXors would be serious about killing and sterilizing people.
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
'how was happy hour last night''oh it was cool until we got into it over the limits on the earned income tax credit again''bobby's never gonna fucking get it, is he'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:17 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the reason this is shameful for me btw is because its privileging one kind of blah blah yada over you know the deal
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
Getting back to my "flags" thing, I remembered that I'm pretty nostalgic for the marches of my boy scout youth. I wish there were more civilian opportunities for marching and if elected your fascist dictator, would make them mandatory for Sunday mornings. I would exempt the differently-abled, which I realize is not very fascisty of me, but what the heck.
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and I don't want to minimize the importance of fascisty uniforms! All women would have to wear either IDF uniforms or labcoats. I don't know about the men.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_P7lsU6JzU3o/S8Jriley3iI/AAAAAAAAAGM/8wcDlkCm5Vg/s1600/idf-women.jpg
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/256486/256486,1295976450,6/stock-photo-isolated-scientist-woman-in-lab-coat-with-chemical-glassware-69766885.jpg
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link
I propose to ban amplified busking.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
I have also been thinking it would be great if we all had to wear uniforms at work.
what if it were a really shitty uniform though
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:18 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't think they are being serious crut. I wasn't and I thought I clarified that.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
I assumed others weren't as well.
This thread is a weird mix of jokey and not jokey imo which makes it hard to read what people mean correctly.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
Not jokey but OTT and exaggerated.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link
and an internet thread
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
right, that too
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
i think i should be able to kill aggressive drivers
― kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
We've been over it before, so I'm not surprised that there are ilxors who are against killing child molestors, but I've known enough victims of child abuse to care more about what they think.
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
Mandatory adoption - all newborns go to the next family.
-all bicycles are fitted with electroshock triggers so that when cyclists fail to obey BASIC ROAD RULES they are electrocuted.
I think you'll find that in the new no-cars utopia this sort of thing will drop off sharply.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
i am against killing child molesters
― kim tim jim investor (harbl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link