they were always trying to snazz up bond movies. since the the 70's.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
ade what's your #1 bond? casino royale is definitely up there for me, maybe my favorite. ive read that the second one got kinda gutted during the writers strike which is why its so incoherent
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
i dig collateral, i think of it more as a drama/thriller but i suppose there is enough action in it. to me its more memorable as a movie with great moments in it than as a great movie
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
honestly why isn't this list just commando a hundred times
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
ya i dont really care tbh
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Quantum of Solace is far more Bourne-ish, except completely fucked up from conception to final product.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
omg bond in space wars! its all good.
im a from russia with lover
i think the bourne-iest thing about CR is the idea that bond is a conflicted human being instead of a debonair sociopath
that is actually the ian fleming-ish thing about it!
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
assassin gets a cab? how about renting a car.
Seriously?
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
all the bond books are like that in a way that never made it into the movies
The real star of the movie is the City of Los Angeles - obviously fitting for a neo-noir about anonymity. Each frame could have easily been blown up into a coffee table-sized book of photographs.
― Elvis Telecom
This is why I'm glad Michael Mann placed, even if it was collateral. His movies are very pretty.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
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#56
THE INCREDIBLES
Brad Bird2004United States(209 points, 10 votes)
Not incredible. But very good. Too violent, too wise-cracking for me. A bit of the humor fell flat, but the action stuff was really edge-of-your seat stuff. It seems a dozen times more ambitious than any other Pixar project, and the only trade-off was that the intimacy and endearing slow-pace of the other films is totally dropped in a gonzo-off-the-wall breakneck speed.
Good times, otherwise.
― Remy (x Jeremy)
OH MAN WAS THE INCREDIBLES FUN. It basically hit on everything I loved about Modernist visual design ca. 1955-1975 (the villain's hideout, the copious usage of Eurostile font and the '63 Stingray/XKE/Mercedes 300SL-derived car Mr. Incredible drove in a couple scenes almost gave me aneurysms of joy). And in a naive innocent Who's-Ayn-Rand-wossa-libertarian-tort-reform-huh? mindset (like the one I went into this movie with, in total 'block all depressing conservatism for sanity's sake' mode) then it's a great, simple story about the benefits of nonconformity and America's sad obsession with rendering heroes mortal (see: every modern athlete ever). And it reminded me of Watchmen.
― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin)
BOUND BOUND BOUND AND REBOUNDSo yeah, The Incredibles was indeed pretty incredible. It had some of the best action sequences I've seen all year. I loved Samuel Jackson as FROZONE. Also, I took my son who now claims he IS Dash, and has been running ridiculously fast ever since we left the theater.
― nickalicious (nickalicious)
I just saw The Incredibles and it was very good!
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
if heat dont place im leaving
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
wonder if nickalicious' kid kept that up
you're right about that 'hey homie' scene, really great basic blocking, staging, timing, etc. i'd love to see tape of rehearsals of it.
xps re: collateral
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
<3 yo homie is that my briefcase scene
Zero chance Miami Vice is making it in here, right?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
upper echelon bond is, i think:
dr. nofrom russia with lovegoldfingerman with the golden gun
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
I bet Miami Vice does.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
libertarian hero worship would be something people would have to seriously wrestle with if there were superheroes. unfortunately we argue about it now when there are just rich dweebs on the internet.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
max, from russia with love is my #1
come on, you better believe bourne came up in the pitch for CR
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:43 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
definitely, but when they were executing it martin campbell clearly did his own thing! the priority was definitely to distance from Die Another Day with a back to basics bond, but they were pretty thoughtful about making it a bond movie and not trying to transform it into bourne. the only parallel i feel i can credibly draw is an equivalent conviction about making the protag really badass and serious, but even then they're still treated as distinct characters
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
just realized that die another day is an acronym for DAD
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
where's the thread where everyone muses thoughtfully about how The Incredibles is a Randian wank fantasy
xp: lol apparently goole remembers it too
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Goldeneye is still my favorite Bond - Xenia Onatopp, Pierce Brosnan is really good, great action sequences, best video game tie-in
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I really, really like all of Brosnan's Bond movies
hell, I'm trying to think of a Bond movie I dislike; the closest I get is You Only Live Twice
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
I like The Incredibles but have always had lots of problems with it, from the neo-con undercurrent to the fact that it's the only Pixar movie that could have been made live action without really changing anything.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
(And then of course Brad Bird goes on to do MI4)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
the Denise Richards/Brosnan Bond was the absolute worst, though
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:51 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark
you only live twice is legit my 3rd fav bond
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
who cares xxp
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Though I don't think MI4 would have worked as a cartoon.
you're really holding it against the incredibles that its not about fish or something??
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
The Incredibles was such a bad turn for Pixar, from the shit politics to the shit being too long to the shit message
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/enterdragon.jpg
#55
ENTER THE DRAGON
Robert Clouse1973Hong Kong(211 points, 12 votes)
naturally search Enter the Dragon, repeatedly, while drunk or even hungover. It is the all-purpose film.
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy)
i want to say more abt enter the dragon cos i do think it's an amazing film, but i haven't seen it in forever. i can't remember what its problems are with any detail. i remember LEE, bolo yeung, the mirrors, some architecture, fake blood, and john saxon's burgundy turtleneck.
― g--ff (gcannon)
In Enter the Dragon, John Saxon has a fight scene on a golf course in which he gets a IRL boner during (its real obvious too and hillarious), and thats a choreographed fight! Imagine how many boners pop when dudes fight for real.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy)
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
awesome movie tho xp
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Not really. It just disappointed me at the time that an animated film with such pedigree, which could literally do anything it wanted to on screen, basically did the X-Men (with a good script). Just a relative failure of technology and imagination, I guess, however slight.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
toy story movies are my least fave pixar movies. i didn't mind incredibles.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
are all of disney's non-animal movies "failures of technology and animation"?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
as a follow up to The Iron Giant, The Incredibles was a crushing disappointment
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's kind of hilarious that a movie mostly about a mid-life crisis creates all these "omg so CONSERVATIVE" responses, particularly when the most neo-conny character in the story is the villain
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
incredibles is stylized in a way that you could never, ever do in live action - or at least a live-action film even close to that would have to be like 75% cgi
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
enter the dragon is great because bruce lee is in it and bruce lee was one of the most phenomenal human beings who ever lived.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
^ back on track
the agonizing over the 'politics' of the incredibles on ILX always felt overblown to me - there's much more reactionary pictures being celebrated in this thread alone
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
ha no kidding
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
actually my least faves are wall-e, the toy stories, cars 1 & 2. the cars movies are so fucking bad. and offensive even.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
You misunderstand, I think. My thought was, you know, Hollywood churns out enough movies similar to Incredibles already - superheroes running around chased by people with guns - that I was let down that Pixar (the only company doing what it does at such a consistently high quality) went down that route.
Is this meant to be ironic?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
scott, why didn't you like the toy stories?
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link