who cares xxp
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Though I don't think MI4 would have worked as a cartoon.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
you're really holding it against the incredibles that its not about fish or something??
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
The Incredibles was such a bad turn for Pixar, from the shit politics to the shit being too long to the shit message
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/enterdragon.jpg
#55
ENTER THE DRAGON
Robert Clouse1973Hong Kong(211 points, 12 votes)
naturally search Enter the Dragon, repeatedly, while drunk or even hungover. It is the all-purpose film.
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy)
i want to say more abt enter the dragon cos i do think it's an amazing film, but i haven't seen it in forever. i can't remember what its problems are with any detail. i remember LEE, bolo yeung, the mirrors, some architecture, fake blood, and john saxon's burgundy turtleneck.
― g--ff (gcannon)
In Enter the Dragon, John Saxon has a fight scene on a golf course in which he gets a IRL boner during (its real obvious too and hillarious), and thats a choreographed fight! Imagine how many boners pop when dudes fight for real.
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy)
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
awesome movie tho xp
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Not really. It just disappointed me at the time that an animated film with such pedigree, which could literally do anything it wanted to on screen, basically did the X-Men (with a good script). Just a relative failure of technology and imagination, I guess, however slight.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
toy story movies are my least fave pixar movies. i didn't mind incredibles.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
are all of disney's non-animal movies "failures of technology and animation"?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
as a follow up to The Iron Giant, The Incredibles was a crushing disappointment
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's kind of hilarious that a movie mostly about a mid-life crisis creates all these "omg so CONSERVATIVE" responses, particularly when the most neo-conny character in the story is the villain
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
incredibles is stylized in a way that you could never, ever do in live action - or at least a live-action film even close to that would have to be like 75% cgi
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
enter the dragon is great because bruce lee is in it and bruce lee was one of the most phenomenal human beings who ever lived.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
^ back on track
the agonizing over the 'politics' of the incredibles on ILX always felt overblown to me - there's much more reactionary pictures being celebrated in this thread alone
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
ha no kidding
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
actually my least faves are wall-e, the toy stories, cars 1 & 2. the cars movies are so fucking bad. and offensive even.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
You misunderstand, I think. My thought was, you know, Hollywood churns out enough movies similar to Incredibles already - superheroes running around chased by people with guns - that I was let down that Pixar (the only company doing what it does at such a consistently high quality) went down that route.
Is this meant to be ironic?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
scott, why didn't you like the toy stories?
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
I hate the fucking Cars movies. I wish they were done live action, cost three times as much and flopped.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
I still haven't seen the Toy Story movies
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:56 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Indeed. They made the protagonists human instead of a robot.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
i think the politics of incredible rankled because they were kinda different from the shitty politics of other films!
it's a big pet peeve of mine but using 'neocon' incorrectly drives me nuts. ayn rand is not irving kristol
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
everyone hates the Cars movies don't they? Apart from John Lassetter
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
toy story movies just seemed like toy/mcdonalds/cash-in movies. the tech is cool. but jesus a movie like findin nemo is like all time great and so much better.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
i think we get more nervous about politics in "kids" films anyway
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
finding
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
i liked this line from a review of enter the dragon i read once, that said john saxon had a black belt in karate and a brown belt in acting
enter th dragon's cool cuz its directed by the guy who did gymkata, and bolo yeung plays himself in it
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
i liked ratatouille a bunch.
I need to see Enter The Dragon again
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
"john saxon had a black belt in karate and a brown belt in acting"
roffle
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
plus tim allen and tom hanks for two hours ehhh blah. and all those other t.v. losers.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:00 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hate to break it to you but kids fucking LOVE these movies
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
fair/fair. i just think they are charming in spite of themselves. but i *get* the objection. ratatouille is (to me) a surprisingly complex movie. I saw it at hte lowest low point in my life and I loved it instantly. my gf despises it, has never made it all the way through tho... v. curious how polarized our reactions are.
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
toy story movies just seemed like toy/mcdonalds/cash-in movies.
This is mind-bigglingly OffTM
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
The Toy Stories are delightful if flawed. We applaud their celebration of commitment to a higher cause (being a toy is a goal in itself) while we denounce their use of a Cowboy to relay this message.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/wP9f5.gif
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
they're just so creepy (the Cars movies)
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Enter the Dragon is awesome and ridiculous. Plus there are irl boners.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
plz change thread title to "Opinions on Pixar films (also some action film poll results)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
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#53 (TIE)
MIAMI VICE
Michael Mann2006United States(217 points, 7 votes)
I've read a lot of critics say that the movie doesn't have a lot in common with the TV series, but I don't think that's quite true. It's ridiculously stylized, but all Mann is. More importantly, its plot is thick, its exposition almost nonexistant, its themes heavy but a little ill-presented, and its characterizations very, very thin. This is true of even (perhaps especially) the best episodes of the TV show. It's all sex and violence and macho fantasy (did I see Gong Li crying during sex?) and, well, I kinda loved it. I won't remember anything about it in a month except for the way it looked, but hey.
― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan)
this was GREAT. the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever, but everything else was really solid entertainment.
i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.
― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen)
I've now watched this movie on DVD about 12 times in the past 18 months, and it's finally making sense: the go-fast boats, the FLIR images, all that narc jargon -- and that the guy in the white linen jacket at the club buying the hookers is part of their team (was he going to have sex with them?) and that the rest of the team follows Sonny and Crockett into Jose's Hatian den and Justin Theroux tosses Crockett a hand grenade during the negotiations. And so many scenes finally make sense where initially it's like watching the end-credits of Cache.
― Eazy
some of my favorite mann moments in this:
interior of car being torn apart by anti-materiel rifle
the part before the climax where crockett & tubbs fistbump exactly when the drums of nu-metal in the air tonight kick in
scene where luis tosar is shown the security footage of crockett dancing just a little too erotically with gong li and the camera lingers on the back of his head the entire time
the raid on the trailer park was the only sequence that had any dramatic heft, to me. really would've liked to have seen the movie mann 'wanted' to make, with the climax taking place in the triple frontier. it also struck me that jamie foxx killing yero at the end = russell means killing magua at end of mohicans. in both cases it was like a concession that, yeah, the white lead was lame and the nonwhite sidekick's conflict was much more dramatically satisfying.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam)
come anticipate Miami Vice with me
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^YES
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
one inch punch so rad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mxwIC8lrv0&feature=related
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
I can't find the medulla oblongata scene on youtube - favorite Mann moment ever
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
I have never seen Miami Vice
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
The reason the Incredibles politics (however unintentional) rankles is residual 9/11 unease. On one hand, you have scenes where the mom actually states how "everything has changed" as a justification for more extreme action. On the other, you have a sub-theme of how political correctness has ruined achievement for some by praising the achievement of everyone (the kindergarden graduation theory). I think a character asks "how can I be special when everyone is special?" or something. But yeah, as far as reactionary politics go, it's an exercise in subtly compared to the usual action fascism.
Also, Cars was literally test marketed as a boy equivalent to Disney's Princess empire, successfully, apparently. I have two girls, and they couldn't care less about Cars. But every little boy I know has Cars swag.
Has Bruce Lee ported over well to subsequent generations, raised on family friendly Jackie Chan?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
miami vice trailer is one of the great moving pictures of the last couple years
i love the movie but the trailer blows me away
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
I rented it (Miami Vice) from the library and the blu-ray crapped out at the beginning of the trailer park raid and I never finished it because it was boring and suck.
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
I love Miami Vice. Do think it's weird that Crockett (or Tubbs) makes such a big deal about drinking mojitos.