Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

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everyone hates the Cars movies don't they? Apart from John Lassetter

― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:00 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hate to break it to you but kids fucking LOVE these movies

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

fair/fair. i just think they are charming in spite of themselves. but i *get* the objection. ratatouille is (to me) a surprisingly complex movie. I saw it at hte lowest low point in my life and I loved it instantly. my gf despises it, has never made it all the way through tho... v. curious how polarized our reactions are.

"renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

toy story movies just seemed like toy/mcdonalds/cash-in movies.

This is mind-bigglingly OffTM

The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

The Toy Stories are delightful if flawed. We applaud their celebration of commitment to a higher cause (being a toy is a goal in itself) while we denounce their use of a Cowboy to relay this message.

Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

i liked ratatouille a bunch.

― scott seward, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/wP9f5.gif

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

they're just so creepy (the Cars movies)

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Enter the Dragon is awesome and ridiculous. Plus there are irl boners.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

plz change thread title to "Opinions on Pixar films (also some action film poll results)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/Miami_Vice16-2.jpg

#53 (TIE)

MIAMI VICE

Michael Mann
2006
United States
(217 points, 7 votes)

I've read a lot of critics say that the movie doesn't have a lot in common with the TV series, but I don't think that's quite true. It's ridiculously stylized, but all Mann is. More importantly, its plot is thick, its exposition almost nonexistant, its themes heavy but a little ill-presented, and its characterizations very, very thin. This is true of even (perhaps especially) the best episodes of the TV show. It's all sex and violence and macho fantasy (did I see Gong Li crying during sex?) and, well, I kinda loved it. I won't remember anything about it in a month except for the way it looked, but hey.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan)

this was GREAT. the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever, but everything else was really solid entertainment.

i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen)

I've now watched this movie on DVD about 12 times in the past 18 months, and it's finally making sense: the go-fast boats, the FLIR images, all that narc jargon -- and that the guy in the white linen jacket at the club buying the hookers is part of their team (was he going to have sex with them?) and that the rest of the team follows Sonny and Crockett into Jose's Hatian den and Justin Theroux tosses Crockett a hand grenade during the negotiations. And so many scenes finally make sense where initially it's like watching the end-credits of Cache.

― Eazy

some of my favorite mann moments in this:

interior of car being torn apart by anti-materiel rifle

the part before the climax where crockett & tubbs fistbump exactly when the drums of nu-metal in the air tonight kick in

scene where luis tosar is shown the security footage of crockett dancing just a little too erotically with gong li and the camera lingers on the back of his head the entire time

the raid on the trailer park was the only sequence that had any dramatic heft, to me. really would've liked to have seen the movie mann 'wanted' to make, with the climax taking place in the triple frontier. it also struck me that jamie foxx killing yero at the end = russell means killing magua at end of mohicans. in both cases it was like a concession that, yeah, the white lead was lame and the nonwhite sidekick's conflict was much more dramatically satisfying.

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam)

come anticipate Miami Vice with me

omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

it's a big pet peeve of mine but using 'neocon' incorrectly drives me nuts. ayn rand is not irving kristol

^^^^YES

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

one inch punch so rad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mxwIC8lrv0&feature=related

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

I can't find the medulla oblongata scene on youtube - favorite Mann moment ever

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

I have never seen Miami Vice

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

The reason the Incredibles politics (however unintentional) rankles is residual 9/11 unease. On one hand, you have scenes where the mom actually states how "everything has changed" as a justification for more extreme action. On the other, you have a sub-theme of how political correctness has ruined achievement for some by praising the achievement of everyone (the kindergarden graduation theory). I think a character asks "how can I be special when everyone is special?" or something. But yeah, as far as reactionary politics go, it's an exercise in subtly compared to the usual action fascism.

Also, Cars was literally test marketed as a boy equivalent to Disney's Princess empire, successfully, apparently. I have two girls, and they couldn't care less about Cars. But every little boy I know has Cars swag.

Has Bruce Lee ported over well to subsequent generations, raised on family friendly Jackie Chan?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

miami vice trailer is one of the great moving pictures of the last couple years

i love the movie but the trailer blows me away

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I rented it (Miami Vice) from the library and the blu-ray crapped out at the beginning of the trailer park raid and I never finished it because it was boring and suck.

The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I love Miami Vice. Do think it's weird that Crockett (or Tubbs) makes such a big deal about drinking mojitos.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

exactly what i was going to say max

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

miami vice is a sore spot in my relationship too, i dragged my gf and a bunch of her friends to it on opening night and they did not get it at ALL

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

such an amazing trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4xSA7_aEtI

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Also, cold start of theatrical Miami Vice one of the greatest of all time. They fucked it up in the director's cut.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I knew it would place. Iirc ILX seemed to love MV.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Max specifically btw.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

kind of the most quotable movie ever, too

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

That's not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3TeE2Z7a_U

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

are both directors and theatrical cuts avail on the blu ray of mv

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

I have never seen Miami Vice

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:06 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think you will like it. Loved Miami Vice for what it was. Walked away a little perplexed as to why I enjoyed it so much. But I did. Also a big Mann fan, but not sure exactly why.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

it really is special

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

just director's cut unfortunately

Nicholas: They are vertically intergrated, they're...
Det. Ricardo Tubbs: You mean they walk around with constant erections?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

really? that rankles. rankles!

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Miami Vice this beautiful summer afternoon. During the movie the projector flickered once. When I came out, there had been this massive storm that passed through, with downed trees and power lines and stuff. It was totally disorienting.

True story.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

whoa

it was the movie that did it

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

i dont care much for MV as a movie but i do appreciate its filmmaking and as a collection of 'mann moments' (as omar put it). like most of his recent efforts, its incredibly frustrating for tantalizing you with visions of the film it could've been.

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

really? that rankles. rankles!

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol sorry...

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

the character actors make Miami Vice - John Hawkes, the kingpin and his evil henchman, the weaselly guy who gets the hooked into the cartel

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

i need to sit down and have a long think about public enemies one of these days

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

I hated the night-time gunfight scenes in Public Enemy - the way Mann shot them on video just didn't look right

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

more later, folks. work calls....

omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Public Enemies was even less of what it could have been than Miami Vice was, but I enjoyed it. Perhaps the only Mann I've seen only once, though.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

At first I thought you were talking about the Cagney flick.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

You dirty rat.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

the gong li love sideplot was AWFUL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

i still think farrell was channelling george w bush in MV

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

those little sour looks on his face, the slightly over-drawled american accent

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

the thing that kills me about mann is - he's an incredibly thoughtful, intelligent guy who does the legwork for all his movies, he understands the milieu of the characters like a real expert would, hes in the characters heads completely, and he does very little cinematically to convey that expertise, we're always on the outside looking in - its like for him the details just inform the work, but he should be letting us in on that stuff too

underrated perf in MV: tom towles as the AB leader

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

one-inch punch did 0/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

i like these bits from outlaw vern's MV review:

There is one scene where Sonny is with Gong Li and unless I misunderstood something, he tells her that his dad listened to the Allman Brothers and Lynyrd Skynyrd. This, to me, is hilarious, because as I’ve pointed out before, Mann goes into an insane monologue about Tom Cruise’s character’s off-screen dad’s love for jazz music on the commentary track for COLLATERAL. Michael Mann is kind of a weird guy and apparently that’s one of his obsessions, he for some reason thinks that to give depth to a character you have to figure out what type of music the character’s dad listened to.

and then later

Jamie Foxx is real good as Rico, mixing a little Jamie Foxx swagger with the quiet sensitivity of my man P.M. Thomas. Also he can fly a plane. Rico gets the one joke in the movie, which I gotta assume Jamie Foxx improvised and then he must’ve convinced Michael Mann that his character’s actions came from a song his father used to listen to. Otherwise I can’t think of any reason why Michael Mann would leave a funny part in a movie.

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

i saw thief when it came out and visually even then as a kid i was like wooooowwwww what the hell am i watching? i had never seen anything that looked like that or sounded like that. tangerine dream plus dreamsequence safecracking. thing was intense.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

INFERNAL AFFAIRS - this kept getting taken off my ballot because i felt it wasnt really an 'action' movie but then snuck back on every time i thought about how important the threat of action is to the movie, the loaded gun always in sight. also its just a p rad movie

THE FUGITIVE - didnt vote for this but i wish i had since a) CHASE and b) any movie that got parodied by the simpsons probably deserved a vote

COLLATERAL - i just really like the way this movie looks. but all the weird little parts of this movie really add up to something greater for me, like its less about anything than just everything. i remember i snuck into this movie with a friend on a whim after we saw something else, and the xp of seeing this enough to make me completely forget what we had gone to the movies to see in the first place

MIAMI VICE - i think i really came around to this after i rewatched it when it placed in the ilx films of the oughts poll. there are a bunch of good posts itt

(_()_) (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link


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