yeah they didn't dole her out a lot of character in the first place
― horseshoe, Thursday, 16 February 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like I like Winona more this season than ever before, but yeah Season 1 Ava is not the same character as the rest of the show, which is kind of the biggest annoyance for me right now. That said, this absolutely ruled this week. Loved Raylan's horrible pun, it felt like he lifted it from the Archer writers' room.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
looks like Winona is going to be a lot more pivotal shortlyhere's hoping she elevates beyond the "i stole a bag of money, shucks" schtick from last year. it wasn't that bad but had the same whiff of ava breaking bad: character development for the sake of plot development
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
I read somewhere that those two episodes were specifically conceived more as a relatively inexpensive stopgap rather than some carefully considered (on a thematic/character level) development, which makes a lot of sense in retrospect.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
yyyep
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
It's kind of maddening, as far as Ava and Winona are concerned. I mean, the writers are capable of coming up with an awesome, well-shaded female character like Mags...it's not like they cant get better storylines for them. But yeah, if they're just going to be cartoons, then don't have them at all.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
How are we to this point on the thread without anyone mentioning how Mykelti Williamson is ABSOLUTELY KILLING IT as Ellstin Limehouse? The introduction of Noble's Holler is this season's stroke of genius, and his patriarchal menace is the photo negative of Neal McDonough's Quarles character.
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah noble's holler is a development i am v *excited* and Limehouse is already a great character
― horseshoe, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, loving Limehouse. that dude is badass. He's sort of got that even-tempered, still waters run deep kinda, I dunno, Marsellus Wallace feel about him...
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
His creepy "bacon"-flavored sex threat against my lovely Deputy Brooks REALLY pissed me off.
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
(there is a sentence I did not ever expect to type)
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
he's strong but I don't feel like he's gotten a *great* scene yet.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
the torture scene was a sign of things to come,
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
I'm willing to bet that first great scene will be his first encounter with Quarles.
― Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
kinda too bad I don't have cable for this, cuz I can't see haviong the time to watch DVDs of prev season til, oh, September
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
bummer morbs! it's really great!
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, evil bbq guy is greatthe one weak link is the female marshall imo. they gave her an ep last season and she basically threw it away. I'm not sure she can act.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
er Brooks, I guess.
no i love her!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
aw I like her
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure YOU can act, forks...ya big jerk :)
I am, in fact, Dewey Crowe.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
you lowdown gimp
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
AHMA DESPERATE MAYUHN
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
lol everytime I think of Dewey I think of him in the trailer with the hooker, naked wearing his cowboy hat
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
brb got a hot chick in my trailer
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
lolol
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
YOU MEAN I GOT FOUR KIDNEYS?
still lol'ing @ this
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that was classic. cartoonish but still funny. sort of convinced elmore leonard wrote that line himself.
― horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
I like to think he writes the funniest zings
and Raylan's pun was A+
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know if I ever mentioned this upthread but I heard somewhere that Leonard's one note to Olyphant after seeing the pilot was "lose the hat". O_O
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
i like this show a lot but i am having trouble with suspension of disbelief when they are supposed to be in frankfort, lexington, harlan etc and it looks nothing like any of those places. otherwise though it has wet my whistle and i can't wait to watch the older season(s?).
― more like slayla (NZA), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
seasons - there's 2 before this one
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
just such enjoyable television. like i just find elmore leonard vibe stuff sooo fun, i don't even care that it's not wire caliber or that everyone has to do like ironic james bond bad guy gone hillbilly monologues before they kill everyone, it's just all so much fun...
also someone mentioned upthread about how they really stock their cast with good actors for every small role, like so many great people, like raylan's boss, etc even if they don't get a ton of time...
i feel like jeremy david playing dickie is right up there with olyphant and the dude that plays boyd too
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
love the name of this tumblr, just found it looking for a picture of boyd:
http://fuckyeahjustified.tumblr.com/
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the woman who played the dodgy nurse (Layla, was that her name?) was so good I was surprised when she copped it. Although I think they said she was going to make it, so maybe we haven't seen the last of her.
― trishyb, Friday, 17 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
she had the sexiest snarl
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is real talk, boyd's all-the-way-buttoned + flannel jackets is an amazing look
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:28 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
super OTM post here^
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
Boyd's "come into my parlor" sitdowns with Devil, and then Quarles were so fucking good. Goggins, man.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
ive been watching this show and its v v enjoyable but really really really stupid. there have been more murders in one season of this show than there were in the entire state of kentucky in 2010
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
:D
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
>:[
― horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
it's not a documentary
yay kentucky killing fields! MOAR SHOOTIN
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
is there a more overrated virtue in entertainment than "realism"?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
its just sort of tiresome tho like cant the show find another way of being 'exciting' w/o just killing people all the time? tbh it kinda feels like the show isnt that interested in anything but violence, which makes the show a fun distraction but sorta shallow? idk hs i want to like it just tim o is so dreamy and the dialogue is often p sharp but outside of the character of boyd its all so thin an well, dumb. like i think theyve tempered the rayalan myth stuff p well like having him get his ass kicked or the other characters kinda just rtde at him but i think the show is too casual and too quick to use violence to define its action?
i mean i watched the first season in like three nights while filling out grant applications, it was lots of fun but it just left a sour taste
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
it is tv, it is america, people be dyin
― j., Friday, 17 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
if you're looking for a rational argument with me about this show it's not happening
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
i am really quick to hurl the accusation that a show is shallow but i don't really think this one is. i don't know; it's so leonardy--lots of cartoonish characters that don't seem to have much depth but the realism is situational, or something? or the whole tone is so wry that the show can't let itself explore depth in a straightforward way. i should just work out my defense of this show on these grounds because it keeps coming up, and i understand the criticism, but ultimately disagree.
― horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol or what m@tt said