A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

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It's kind of maddening, as far as Ava and Winona are concerned. I mean, the writers are capable of coming up with an awesome, well-shaded female character like Mags...it's not like they cant get better storylines for them. But yeah, if they're just going to be cartoons, then don't have them at all.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

How are we to this point on the thread without anyone mentioning how Mykelti Williamson is ABSOLUTELY KILLING IT as Ellstin Limehouse? The introduction of Noble's Holler is this season's stroke of genius, and his patriarchal menace is the photo negative of Neal McDonough's Quarles character.

Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

yeah noble's holler is a development i am v *excited* and Limehouse is already a great character

horseshoe, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, loving Limehouse. that dude is badass. He's sort of got that even-tempered, still waters run deep kinda, I dunno, Marsellus Wallace feel about him...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

His creepy "bacon"-flavored sex threat against my lovely Deputy Brooks REALLY pissed me off.

Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

(there is a sentence I did not ever expect to type)

Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

he's strong but I don't feel like he's gotten a *great* scene yet.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

the torture scene was a sign of things to come,

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

I'm willing to bet that first great scene will be his first encounter with Quarles.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

kinda too bad I don't have cable for this, cuz I can't see haviong the time to watch DVDs of prev season til, oh, September

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

bummer morbs! it's really great!

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, evil bbq guy is great
the one weak link is the female marshall imo. they gave her an ep last season and she basically threw it away. I'm not sure she can act.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

er Brooks, I guess.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

no i love her!

horseshoe, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

aw I like her

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not sure YOU can act, forks...ya big jerk :)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

I am, in fact, Dewey Crowe.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

you lowdown gimp

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

AHMA DESPERATE MAYUHN

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

lol everytime I think of Dewey I think of him in the trailer with the hooker, naked wearing his cowboy hat

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

brb got a hot chick in my trailer

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

lolol

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

YOU MEAN I GOT FOUR KIDNEYS?

still lol'ing @ this

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that was classic. cartoonish but still funny. sort of convinced elmore leonard wrote that line himself.

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

I like to think he writes the funniest zings

and Raylan's pun was A+

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know if I ever mentioned this upthread but I heard somewhere that Leonard's one note to Olyphant after seeing the pilot was "lose the hat". O_O

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link

i like this show a lot but i am having trouble with suspension of disbelief when they are supposed to be in frankfort, lexington, harlan etc and it looks nothing like any of those places. otherwise though it has wet my whistle and i can't wait to watch the older season(s?).

more like slayla (NZA), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link

seasons - there's 2 before this one

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link

just such enjoyable television. like i just find elmore leonard vibe stuff sooo fun, i don't even care that it's not wire caliber or that everyone has to do like ironic james bond bad guy gone hillbilly monologues before they kill everyone, it's just all so much fun...

also someone mentioned upthread about how they really stock their cast with good actors for every small role, like so many great people, like raylan's boss, etc even if they don't get a ton of time...

i feel like jeremy david playing dickie is right up there with olyphant and the dude that plays boyd too

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

love the name of this tumblr, just found it looking for a picture of boyd:

http://fuckyeahjustified.tumblr.com/

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the woman who played the dodgy nurse (Layla, was that her name?) was so good I was surprised when she copped it. Although I think they said she was going to make it, so maybe we haven't seen the last of her.

trishyb, Friday, 17 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

she had the sexiest snarl

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this is real talk, boyd's all-the-way-buttoned + flannel jackets is an amazing look

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super OTM post here^

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Boyd's "come into my parlor" sitdowns with Devil, and then Quarles were so fucking good. Goggins, man.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

ive been watching this show and its v v enjoyable but really really really stupid. there have been more murders in one season of this show than there were in the entire state of kentucky in 2010

99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

:D

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

>:[

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a documentary

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

yay kentucky killing fields! MOAR SHOOTIN

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

is there a more overrated virtue in entertainment than "realism"?

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

its just sort of tiresome tho like cant the show find another way of being 'exciting' w/o just killing people all the time? tbh it kinda feels like the show isnt that interested in anything but violence, which makes the show a fun distraction but sorta shallow? idk hs i want to like it just tim o is so dreamy and the dialogue is often p sharp but outside of the character of boyd its all so thin an well, dumb. like i think theyve tempered the rayalan myth stuff p well like having him get his ass kicked or the other characters kinda just rtde at him but i think the show is too casual and too quick to use violence to define its action?

i mean i watched the first season in like three nights while filling out grant applications, it was lots of fun but it just left a sour taste

99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

it is tv, it is america, people be dyin

j., Friday, 17 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

if you're looking for a rational argument with me about this show it's not happening

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

i am really quick to hurl the accusation that a show is shallow but i don't really think this one is. i don't know; it's so leonardy--lots of cartoonish characters that don't seem to have much depth but the realism is situational, or something? or the whole tone is so wry that the show can't let itself explore depth in a straightforward way. i should just work out my defense of this show on these grounds because it keeps coming up, and i understand the criticism, but ultimately disagree.

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

lol or what m@tt said

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this is real talk, boyd's all-the-way-buttoned + flannel jackets is an amazing look

haha in the most recent episode i watched he was wearing a charcoal plaid under this really stylish like maybe waxed cotton button up jacket and dark slim cut jeans and i was like 'lol he dresses like half the guys i know'

really this show is p stealthily stylish, feel like winona has some p excellent celine and apc style workwear, these trim and elegantly patterned silk floral dresses and blouses in trendy colors with good proportions

99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

you must run in some p cool circles, a great look

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

i dont really want the show to be 'realistic' but i think that the cartoonish/gratuitous violence ends up giving these actions an uncomfortable weightlessness. and i also think the show is inconsistent about how it views 'legitimate' murder. like raylan got transferred to ky because he killed that guy but then he goes on to kill like a half a dozen more ppl really lightly. similarly the ag stuff w/boyd's shooting ends up being more about getting boyd out of prison than like ethical qn about how 'justified' it is for raylan to just go around killing people all the time

like i guess i feel realism aside that while the show sometimes seems interested in looking at the ethical qns around violence it leans so heavily on violence as a storytelling that any attempt to address the morality of this stuff is compromised and distorted. also on just a mechanical level the 'gotta shoot somebody' approach seems to offer real diminishing returns

99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

lamp otm really but i'm liking this season's breezier, comic book-y murder rate. I think all the killings are still "justified"; no one is killed unless they drew first and if they are, then their comeuppance is forthcoming.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

the justification is "me or you", consistently and anyone who oversteps that boundary pays the price, even if it's Mags. The reason Boyd and Raylan are, more or less, co-pro/antagonists and it's often hard to tell the difference who's in the right is because they share virtually the same moral code. It's only ethically that they disagree.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link


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