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"the woman question"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

ik,r

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Roy Edroso had that for breakfast this morning.

Seriously. I'm not very well educated, and half drunk most of the time, but I do know how to read, and I swear to God I have no idea what he's saying. I don't know how "a civilization of men, for men, and by men" relates to anything else he said. I don't know what he means by women's "privileged relationship with the natural world," unless my browser has failed to show me the picture of a lady sniffing a purty flower that was supposed to explain it. And as to "imitation by quasi-feminized males of quasi-masculinized females," it sounds like Archie Bunker had one of those Flowers for Algernon operations.

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

real-life lol at this:

Continued on Page 2 >>

Oh shit.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

The purpose of lifting the left’s Potemkin skirts is not to score tits for tats.

I mean

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

"ok, we might hate women, but they can't even agree on what a woman is!"

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

i think that's what he's on about anyway

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

'they treat women like MEN! at least we treat women like OBJECTS'

j., Friday, 17 February 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

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horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

for some reason makes me think of the mom of the dude esther greenwood is dating in the bell jar, who tells esther, "what a man is is an arrow into the future and what a woman is is a place to shoot that arrow off from" or something to that effect.

horseshoe, Friday, 17 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

http://takimag.com/article/facing_down_the_thugs

max, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

thug life

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Pi day is coming up again. Perhaps I should say hello to him once more.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://takimag.com/article/facing_down_the_thugs

― max, Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:05 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

At this point in the USA’s evolution toward complete ethnic disaggregation, arguing about who is or is not “white nationalist” is less to the point than wondering why anyone thinks there’s anything wrong with such a position.

took me by surprise

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

poor derb, can't even pull off concern trolling without letting his gay-bashing show.

bnw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Mr. Pareene starts right off with an error: I didn’t host the panel, I was a guest. Proceeding from sloppy journalism to personal vituperation, he then calls me a pervert, on what grounds I do not know. (I don’t, come to think of it, even know what a pervert is anymore in the age of NAMBLA, gay marriage, and Madonna in bondage gear on prime-time network TV. My dad, along with well-nigh every other person of his generation, would have said that Barney Frank is a pervert, but I’m guessing this is not Mr. Pareene’s point of view.)

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Kathryn Jean Lopez @kathrynlopez

al sharpton is basically omnipresent on msnbc. politics. funerals. fake wars on women. you name it.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Man, between Max getting noticed by the NRO and now this, it's been a banner month of failed attempts at self-awareness by these idiots

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

Well when they only talk to themselves and their circle the whole time...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

But the circle-jerk cookies taste so good!

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

Still, even in the dude's indignancy, he still can't react in any way not being a complete fucking tosser.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

I missed max getting blown up-- link?

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

LOL

― Nicole, Friday, February 3, 2012 1:38 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(For the uninitiated, Gawker’s imperative role on the Internet is that of the mother bird, partially digesting the work of others with the enzymes of bored irony and the gastric juices of sarcasm, and regurgitating stub articles fit for the consumption of the shrieking, featherless hatchlings that comprise my doomed generation.)

this is a bit longer than "all the news that's fit to print" but it's a pretty good line for the masthead all the same

― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, February 3, 2012 1:40 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

MAX WINS EVERYTHING

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, February 3, 2012 1:41 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmbo

― max, Friday, February 3, 2012 1:58 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its like when the monkeys at the zoo turn and notice you

― bnw, Friday, February 3, 2012 2:03 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290125/free-speech-only-okay-if-it-s-money-inational-reviewi-guy-explains-daniel-foster

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

dan foster is bush league NRO, getting a full two-pager from the derb is a real accomplishment *tips hat to ghost rider*

max, Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

the most hateful post in corner history?

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

I realize he's trolling for attention still but I'm rendered speechless by this. "homosexualists" how witty. as one of the commenters points out, if you read the new yorker story on this incident the two harasser students don't exactly come across as sympathetic, it's pretty clear that they hounded this poor kid into committing suicide.

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

that's not exactly how i read the new yorker story

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

I read the New Yorker story and I didn't think it was clear they hounded him into anything! If anything, there is plenty of evidence that Ravi was a sophomoric jerk and tried to cover his tracks, but most definitely a near absence of how that affected Clementi.

The real issue to me is the commenters who seem to think that living in a dorm room means you have no expectation of privacy! These dudes are like the anti-civil rights brigade

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

what is "homosexualist" a dog whistle for?

caek, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

i mean other than "homosexual"

caek, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

I heard "homosexualists" a lot when in 2002 Miami-Dade County tried to pass a bill protecting the rights of homosexuals. It's used to distinguish those who are politically active from, er, those who aren't?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

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guess you're right, it's fruitless to speculate exactly why somebody kills himself, even with a note but derbs' utter lack of sympathy and trumped-up sense of outrage for Ravi - who I submit is more pathological than just a sophomoric jerk though he's that too - has ignited my own sense of righteous indignation. think I'm done with NRO these people are just beyond the pale.

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

"homosexualists" is an anachronism from the victorian era or sometime. derbyshire's idea of being cute and oh so britishes

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

homosexualist agenda is supposed to correlate to feminist agenda, I believe

you know, these minorities trying to push their propaganda on us

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

from the nyer story the suicide seemed like a shock -- clementi looked externally to be handling everything really well. just goes to show, of course. i'm not sure myself that ravi should get ten years in an american prison for being a thoughtless narcissistic dick (i'm not really sure who this helps), but yeah derb's intense anger and all that OUR CHILDREN ARE TOLD HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE "PROUD" SO WHY'S THIS GUY HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT stuff just demonstrates again how hugely furious it makes these people to hear complaints from anyone who's not whitestraightreligious. then they think this feeling they have is oppression! admittedly they have nothing to compare it to.

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not sure myself that ravi should get ten years in an american prison for being a thoughtless narcissistic dick

I'm not sure how to feel either tbh

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

I am sure Ravi should be tried for this; the notion of sentence should only be considered if the verdict comes in and he's found guilty.

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

The charges against Ravi have nothing to do with the suicide, iirc. Which is why his lawyers can't get access to the presumed suicide note through discovery.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

just demonstrates again how hugely furious it makes these people to hear complaints from anyone who's not whitestraightreligious.

to be clear, derbyshire is anti-religious too! he's against anything with even a whiff of compassion to it, except for the anti-universal of racial solidarity.

i think he's just mad that a common form of cruelty is becoming more socially unacceptable.

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

On one hand, his behavior was unacceptable, completely assholish, and he invaded the dude's privacy

On the other hand, holy shit would we have a lot of convictions if you prosecuted every time someone was like that in a dorm.

The conservative take here is probably "kids will be kids"

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

"It is a measure of the insanity we’re in here that even the New Yorker, as homo-friendly a magazine as you could wish for..."

should we pool some paypal money to send derb a subscription to BUTT or what

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Here's the story in case anyone needs a refresher:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/02/06/120206fa_fact_parker

lol at the implication in the comments that Clementi was some Rob Lowe-style dude who "knew" he was being recorded.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

It's a dorm room, no expectation of privacy, right, of course watching your roommate via webcam is totally normal

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

^^ what the commenters are actually saying

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

it's why so many universities are doing away with dorm rooms altogether and having students sleep in dining halls

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Eat Drink Man Man amirite

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

what is "homosexualist" a dog whistle for?

― caek, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean other than "homosexual"

― caek, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard "homosexualists" a lot when in 2002 Miami-Dade County tried to pass a bill protecting the rights of homosexuals. It's used to distinguish those who are politically active from, er, those who aren't?

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah. homosexualists, darwinists, mohamedists, maryolatrists; etc. On par with democrat party. Just a way to change a name to make it seem sinister, denoting an agenda, and trying to take away from the subject the power that comes from self-naming. Really just name-calling without much thought to it. It's kind of a defined pattern and it's done instinctually these days by rightists

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

First saw that term when Dave Sim went off the rails and started writing about the "feminist-homosexualist axis"

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

surprised he didn't say "axist"

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

lolist

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link


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