lol so Morbs basically spends the entire thread bitching and being pissy, then throws up a link for page views, which I'm certain he will get from many of the ppl he's been bitching about
it's like watching someone run PUA game
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know what that means DJP, but it sounds right
btw the levels of the Hitchcock canon are pretty well entrenched by now... if you did a ranking poll the most suspenseful thing for me would be how close I could come to picking the order.
(Individual lists always more interesting than collective, now and forever)
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
maybe slant "magazine" told him they'd theoretically pay for articles if they get more than 50 hits
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
there's 2 or 3 of Hitch's 30s films that I'd rate right up there but the problem with the orthodoxy about Hitch is that it's mostly right
― contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
they also want you to stifle
xp
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
this list pretty much IS an 'individual list'
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
you seem to get the most upset when we swerve away from canon
this is an idiosyncratic weird list on a loosely-defined topic, that is its strength
stop fighting it morbs
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
I think we're going up to 11 today with the top 10 coming on Monday
many xps
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah and tbh i can quite easily see two maybe three deliberately non-canonical picks ending up really high in an ilx hitchcock poll simply because thats ilx orthodoxy
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
look I know this is just a dumb goddamn poll I never should have looked at in the first place but someone using "more important to my childhood" as a decisive criterion... it's inimical to how I approach these things as a cineaste, and the results that alternate world-class auteurist works with cable junk just shows you guys aren't even doing what ya wanna do well.
I like Marnie more than Strangers on a Train or Rebecca
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
really don't know why anyone cares what morbs thinks about anything anymore. or acknowledges his posts in any way.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 17, 2012 12:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree, which is why you should care less about this thread. I suspect, without knowing you, that you are just enjoying being the cranky foil on this thread, and care very little about what is basically a bunch of kids having fun. And it would be out of earshot, too, if you didn't keep opening the window to shout at us.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
there are many ways to look at movies. it's even possible for the same person to enjoy looking at them from different perspectives.
this is a message board poll, not sight & sound. it's possible to appreciate both approaches.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
Marnie is a movie made in a universe where Freud is parfaitly correct about everyting; Strangers on a Train and Rebecca are movies that take place in some liminal Jungian space.
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
if you think you can actually separate personal experiences/associations from the objective quality of something you're reviewing or considering you're kidding yourself. better to acknowledge them.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Which ones split the difference?
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
don't know why anyone cares what morbs thinks about anything anymore
Theoretically bcz I know what I'm talking about, even though film is the one area on the board where this doesn't mean much.
Freud made a parfait?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
lol'n p hard @ 'cineaste' rn
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes walnuts are just walnuts.
eric: maybe Spellbound? I'd like to continue this weird metaphor, but I'm stuck with trying to figure what psychoanalytic school influenced Trouble with Harry (much love).
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
people expecting a clear narrative from poll results is def in my pox ilx pet peeves. it's just a bunch of random people's opinions combined mathematically! there is no interesting story and it's very rarely gonna be surprising or revealing.
― iatee, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
part of what makes the road warrior so awesome is the great casting. the gyro pilot, pappagallo, wez, the feral kid. most of them never did anything beyond australian films but even the bit players are distinctive and memorable. I remember spotting the gyro pilot's girlfriend in razorback a few years later, and she's got 5 minutes of screentime in RW.
max is prolly gibson's best role. imagine some other grizzled dude playing him - clint eastwood, or kurt russell - it'd be a totally diff movie. the sandblasted weariness is great, but he's not a robot, the little smile he flashes when he finds the music box, and his scenes with the feral kid are so damn touching.
the final sequence is still the highwater mark of car chases for me, not just cars crashing but the physicality of people trying to storm a big rig en masse.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
I think I may have to sneak out of the office and listen to Verhoeven's ST commentary.
Best director commentary ever = Herzog. Interviews, interjections into his own movies--never get tired of it.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
sorry for talking about the movies guyz
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
cable junk is gonna show up cause some people here like cable junk not cause 'that's part of the story this poll is trying to tell'. if you want poll results that don't have cable junk, look at a msg board that doesn't have people who like cable junk.
― iatee, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Predator is the high-water mark and there'll be no Lethal Weapon / Point Break / Top Gun / Under Siege.
I'm starting to think this is 75% happening!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Road Warrior on NYC opening night w/ a theater full of bikers who stomped their boots at the end.
ok, 'ppl who've reevaluate their faves from pantsweeting days'
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, February 17, 2012 1:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
his sensibility is totally different from mine, but i do think morbs' role as board crank is sort of important, and i wouldnt want a movie poll where he *didnt* wander in and tell everyone how vulgar and wrong they are
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
max is prolly gibson's best role. imagine some other grizzled dude playing him - clint eastwood, or kurt russell - it'd be a totally diff movie.
this definitely. he's a total movie star in it.
― ryan, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
(pantswetting obv)
OH: I HAD FUN @ ROAD WARRIOR
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Morbs, you can't be that far away from pants-wetting days again, can you?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, it was an easy set-up. At first I read it as pants-sweating, and I was all, huh?
Many x-posts, but I think you're missing that even hardcore stat nerds will start talking about players they loved and experiences they've had with baseball that inform what made them stat nerds to start with. You don't become a baseball nerd without some kind of visceral love for the game (and its history and narratives etc), IMO.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
I saw the road warrior a couple times during it's theatrical run, but the most perfect instance had to be at a drive-in double feature w/ mad max
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
that was my point, eh xp
http://bigstickcombat.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/old-man-with-cane.jpg
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
think you're missing that even hardcore stat nerds will start talking about players they loved and experiences they've had with baseball that inform what made them stat nerds to start with.[
srsly, how could you miss that this is exactly what I was saying?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
VEORC = visceral enjoyment over replacement cineaste
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Is your argument against, say, Commando that it fails at what it set out to accomplish? Or can a bodybuilder slaughterfest just never be good?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
you know when ppl dub movie clips w/ their favorite songs on youtube? they all suck except this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hirZFmRwXvE
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
xp - because I don't think you are? You appear to judge films against some Platonic standard of content and quality, which tends to not reconcile with visceral enjoyment IMO.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
SIXTEEN?????Road Warrior is #16???? *cries*
Curse my stupid non-voting ass.
Anyhoo...
Remember lingerie?
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Which, FWIW, stats nerdery doesn't do. Numbers matter largely in the economic context of the game, not as values in themselves.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's why Kung Fu Hustle made my best of the '00s list, its ripeness for exploitation by Lacanian semiotics
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
Driving Miss Daisy would look good with Ace of Spades playing over the top.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
if vegemitegrrl and I had voted we prolly coulda lobbed the road warrior into the top 10
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
I think my only post on the noms thread was asking omar to give all my points to the road warrior
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I love early Gibson: Tim, Gallipoli, Year of Living Dangerously, Bounty, Lethal Weapon 1 & 2...I even liked Bird on a Wire!
Post-Braveheart, I was kinda done.
But Max will always be his finest. The brutality of one feeding into his anarchy in the second, and those moments with the little wolfboy... Mel was TITE.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I think this means I'm watching RW this weekend.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
We've all been through it in here. But we haven't given up. We're still human beings, with dignity. But you? You're out there with the garbage. You're NOTHING.
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
payback is a cool post-braveheart mel, iirc
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link