Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

idk if the heinlein book is better really! i read it in middle school so who knows. all i remember is the main character getting stressed out about his math homework.

i take it the movie is about fascism while the books i just kind of fascist.

xp heh

Casper Van Dien is like a walking lol forever and always

You guys who haven't seen it would it help to mention that RUE MCCLANAHAN is in this movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zUTfVgbsCE

i knew i was remembering something from ilx past:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=50&threadid=140

things i like in the assault on precicnt 13: the kid with the icecream gets shot not saved (= i am sick but whatevah)

things i like in starship trooper: it is based on the premise that the entire human race = utterly dim but underwear-model gorgeous gay men, some of them by chance in girl's bodies

― mark s (mark s), Monday, November 4, 2002 7:34 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes but Mark, it is set in the FUTURE. Surely this is what we will evolve to?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, November 4, 2002 7:35 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am evolving into the brainbug

― mark s (mark s), Monday, November 4, 2002 7:46 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ didn't help that I'd read the book first, which is much much better.

Starship Troopers book is like the movie minus the satire and plus real fascism.

find it baffling that anyone could find Heinlein's painfully earnest fascism superior to Verhoeven's bitter satire

― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 17, 2012 2:36 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My teenage love of Heinlein is deeply embarrassing now. But I did grow out of it.

You'd either grow out of it, or join a militia.

Man, watching Total Recall again right now. The grimaces Arnold manages are so incredible they look like make-up effects.

With the book, you've got to write your own satire. The movie satirises fascism in the same way that Robocop satirises consumerism and corporations, ie, with a big cheesy LOL.

and still people didn't get it

Looked back at my ballot and omg I shouldnt have rushed it. I forgot Predator! WTF is wrong with me?

Watching T1 again and lol Sarah Connor was a dork. Arnie's punk clothes are an A+ look too.

But the book wasn't meant as satire, so that's sort of cheating. That's like reading Rand as satire. Um, no.

Also, Verhoeven's 1980s version(s) of the future could still be convincingly futuristic, hair and all. I can totally imagine a future that looks like Recall and RoboCop. Can't imagine a future that looks like Showgirls, though.

find it baffling that anyone could find Heinlein's painfully earnest fascism superior to Verhoeven's bitter satire

― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 17, 2012 1:36 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can enjoy the fascism or laugh at it. thus, greatness.

we have a present that looks like showgirls

I watched Terminator again maybe a month or so ago, and I was struck at what a straight to video sort of cult film it looks like - cheap effects, cheap reused effects - but it works.

haha. sorry about duplicate post. Heinliein is overrated. Guy is kind of a dick.

We need to find Omar a less demanding job.

TR, actually (watching in real time now), features all sort of prescient tech stuff.

wwwaaaaayyyyy back when I was in junior high, I was into Avalon Hill's "bookcase games" with the tiny cardboard game pieces, hex grid boards, etc. One of my faves was this:

http://www.msu.edu/user/storto/sstsaler.jpg

I HAVE PLAYED THAT

bugs mr rico millions of em

zilions

I admit that the 'recruiting commercial' at the end of ST is pretty funny. The rest of it gets bogged down because the characters do stupid things relative to the exact same scene in the book. Example: in the movie, Zim deliberately injures a recruit by throwing a knife into his hand. In the novel, he has a long discussion with recruits about the purpose of the military (as Heinlein saw it, IOW 'here's some more militarist propaganda for the reader').
But Heinlein is a dick, the book isn't intended as satire (it was written as an argument against cutting back on nuclear testing), you have to pick your own way through it.

btw morbs voted and his #1 was indeed timecop.

― omar little, Friday, February 17, 2012 1:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

DJP looks like you are a stone cold psychic about this list.

Oh god I still remember the pissy whines of Heinlein fanboys over the lack of the combat suits in ST.

holy shit is that game any fun? i will find a used company if so

my best friend's dad was an o.g. 60's-70's tabletop gamer

i remember the rules being nigh incomprehensible

How could a game with ZILLIONS OF BUGS not be fun?

I mean, there's "Ants In Your Pants" and this, right?

used copy xxp

I am just a preacher, you are all absolved (except somedud).

btw C van Dien whipped = genuine bonerz

http://images.tvrage.com/people/1/211.gif

the book starship troopers is sort of campy fun of its own like the lol old conservatives idea that western democracy would collapse because it was too soft on teen delinquents

I can totally imagine a future that looks like Recall and RoboCop.

I can't. seems like garden variety 80s vision of the future, totally prefab and arch, like paul reiser's hair in aliens. compared with blade runner, robocop is half a step away from hobo with a shotgun.

yeah if at the very least you can admit to casper boners you are allowed in my house.

casper the friendly boner

http://www.huronhs.com/images/gallery/39/68_album.jpg

I literally looked over my shoulder before scrolling down past Casper's head there.

haha me too

You guys who haven't seen it would it help to mention that RUE MCCLANAHAN is in this movie?

see, this is the kind of stuff that made it hard for me to get into ST

oh look a girl is grossed out by bug guts hur hur hur

holy shit is that game any fun? i will find a used company if so

It's not terribly different from other hex grid games of the era. Basically it's Panzer Blitz with different graphics and slightly different movement rules (the bug tunnels give you an advantage). Fun game, but you can get bogged down with the details.

The best mix of everything is this game:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li0dcfMr9c1qzr8nao1_500.jpg

i love all the future-details in starship troopers like the fact that the main characters have south american names and come from buenos aires but speak american-accented english, so much little stuff like that in it

And I'm still mad at myself for not buying this when it came out:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41DgfBjTRlL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

You guys who haven't seen it would it help to mention that RUE MCCLANAHAN is in this movie?

omg can't believe I never noticed this

xpost But the stupidity of the pretty characters is part of ST's appeal! They are just gormless soap opera fascists, save Doogie.

WAHT. Elvis I want to play that game

wau, EfNY game is by TSR!

compared with blade runner, robocop is half a step away from hobo with a shotgun.

Dude, let's remember: this is future Detroit we're talking about. Robocop may have actually been a little too utopian a vision.