What's a "metteur en scene"?
― Tuomas, Monday, February 20, 2012 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It means he's like Michael Mann
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
you guys are breaking the first rule abt fight club
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think the paluhnik thing works best as kinda high concept gross-out clive barker in lit clothing but if you try to get all heavy and existential with me i ain't having it.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
For me the problem with Fight Club is that it's most vocal stans seem to have completely missed the point of the film.
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
and speaking of clive barker and david cronenberg, everyone should have voted for nightbreed. action-packed!
― scott seward, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
If FC was not held up to be more than it is, it wouldn't annoy me half as much
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
BAKULA ~ O'CONNOR ~ JANSSEN
Clive Barker'sLORD OF ILLUSIONS
― omar little, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
i would have voted for that, maybe.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
everyone should have voted for nightbreed. action-packed!
plus it features cronenberg as a therapist/serial killer!
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, February 20, 2012 4:35 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
aloh
― max, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
bummed that ilx doesn't consider 'no country for old men' and action flick
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
a guy was doing work on our house and i showed him my room full of records he said "so is this your man club?" hahaha! i think he meant man cave. i blame man cave phenomena on fight club. pretty easy to blame lots of things on fight club.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
xxxxp the central idea of the film is that 'you don't have to be a corporate doormat, but at the same time, you don't have to destroy civilisation to do that'. Aside from that the film is a satire, of consumerism, corporations, advertising, self help groups, and even of the ideology Durden spouts (which is no different really to the other self help ideologies featured).
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
Driving Miss Daisy action flick y/n
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
The film essentially has two twists. The first being the Calvin & Hobbes twist, the second being 'oh, you know that Tyler's worldview is just bullshit, right?'.
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
The Fight Club Pretzel
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
"man cave" crap has a lot more to do with annoying suburban homes with a finished basement "tv room" with the couch that has cupholders and all kinds of college/pro football paraphernalia on the walls than Fight Club, ime
The fact that Fight Club became this aspirational message movie that supposedly tapped into some huge feeling of disenfranchisement was just a huge facepalm to me. Like, really? THAT movie speaks to you?
I dunno, the essential hilarity of needing a support group for being a disenfranchised WASP is still present for me. The only real "this is somewhat uplifting" scenes are those where Pitt/Norton are talking about how their lives are a struggle, and even those are really just a whiner talking to his homoerotic imaginary friend who looks like Brad Pitt
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
the movie is pretty much a homoerotic Calvin and Hobbes
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
vaguely remember something on the internet about that
― iatee, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
haha I really dug this for a week in hs or something
http://ignatz.brinkster.net/cfightclub.html
― iatee, Monday, 20 February 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
'oh, you know that Tyler's worldview is just bullshit, right?'
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 20 February 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
Jane Austen's Fight Club >>>> actual Fight Club
susie derkins>>>>>>>>>>>whatever they called that wretched helena bonham carter character
― horseshoe, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
tbf I first saw Fight Club during my first semester of college, on opening night, in a kind of crappy old theater. A friend who was kind of my movie-going friend wasn't able to make it so I watched it again with him the next night.
I am that guy.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/efeb4dc1b6/jane-austen-s-fight-club
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
Fincher apparently made the bathroom scene deliberately homoerotic to throw the audience off as to where the plot was going. I don't actually see it myself. That scene just makes both Jack and Tyler out to be daddy hating whingers - when I saw it my reaction was that Jack had chosen his apartment dwelling Ikea buying lifestyle, no-one was forcing him into it. What today would be labelled '1st World problems'.
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
i just feel funny watching movies where i want everyone in the movie to die. feels wrong somehow. that's how i feel about a movie like fight club.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
i've also read interviews where fincher claims or pretends to be completely oblivious to the homosexual subtext of that scene -- to the point of being resentful that the interviewer even broached it.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
so yeah to follow up on la femme nikita - i guess it has style but can't believe everyone was complaining about jaws not being an action movie or the thing not being an action movie but not saying anything about LFN - there's almost no action in the entire movie.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just not entirely sure that the movie (or Palahniuk) believes that.
I think the movie does (never read the book), or at least everyone I've ever discussed it with has interpreted it this way. The protagonist being mesmerized by Tyler Durden's ideology, then slowly becoming disillusioned with it is like the main story arc of the movie. Still don't think it's a great movie (the two personalities reveal was too literal, and the final scene makes no sense), but you'd have to be a bit stupid not to see that it's critical of Durden.
― Tuomas, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
Did you guys know that Cronenberg apparently said that an Eastern Promises sequel could be a possibility? Kind of want an entire movie of Viggo as undercover Russian crime guy who beats people up. Like a combination of Eastern Promises and A History of Violence
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still going to complain that the original Shaft (or any other key blaxploitation movies) isn't on here.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, should've voted for Sweet Sweetback's Badasssss Song... That one is definitely an action movie in the literal sense of the word, since the second half of it consists of nothing but the protagonist running through various locations. (Not a great date movie though, as I found out.)
― Tuomas, Monday, 20 February 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
― Tuomas, Monday, February 20, 2012 2:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is true, but the movie isn't exactly a consistent critique of anything. it ultimately makes clear that tyler's philosophies are A) fascist and B) a device that the protagonist uses to protect himself from emotional commitment, but it spends a lot more time making tyler and his ideas alluring than it does dismantling them. i like the dissonance, cuz pat answer message movies are almost always awful.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
I liked Fight Club a lot, but this may be related to seeing it when it was a first-run box office failure and before it became a message movie for confused alterna-bros.
On the other hand, it can't be denied that it is nowhere close to Fincher's masterpiece, The Game, which is as deep and reticent as FC is ultimately shallow and superficial.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
xpost contdr: I read that as 'answer machine movies' lol
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
alterna-bros.
fixed
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
idk imo the game was kind of woeful
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
thank god bros have moved on to worse movies with less content, like boondock saints
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
This, I thought, was a really good look at one way in which the visuals of Fight Club undercut what's being discussed on screen, in the "pick a fight with a stranger" scene.
― A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
― scott seward, Monday, February 20, 2012 4:46 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
there's a bunch of women who stan for Boondock Saints too. Very weird.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
I have never seen Boondock Saints.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
it's prob worth catching but there's bits of it are cringe
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
Fight Club, like its latter-day counterpart Inception, is the sum total of its wasted talent.
I missed the title of the post and immediately thought "this is the kind of objective statement you'd get in academia." Works pretty well as taught, yup.
I cringe at most anyone taking Palahniuk books as anything other than pulp novelties, but the other movie adaptation I'm aware of -- Choke -- has some pretty funny moments and gains a lot from the casting.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
I pretty much can't stand Boondock Saints from the opening minute. But yeah, a lot of women like it, too.
re students if it's not boondock saints it's that zooey deschanel movie whose name i forget
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 20 February 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link