Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

so it's like the naked prey, only less racially queasy, even tho mel gibson made it?

Vgirl how much do you enjoy the following: torture, fancy loincloths, running, jungles

What are the Mayan words for doghouse, henhouse and outhouse?

it's exciting!

and scary!

xxxpost Shakey: personally, or in movies?

the epigram at the beginning of apocalypto makes it a gross movie imo

its better than The Rock in the jungle, but The Rock in the jungle was still awesome.

are there dudes looking like DLR/Yankee Rose album cover y/n

it's almost as good as Anaconda.

I don't even remember the epigram at the beginning of Apocalypto

I don't really remember the torture tbh; I just remember high quality chasing

hmmm...it seems I may need to roll the dice after all

Fugitive in the Jungle kind of sells me

it's a really good action movie. that's what i'll say. its non-stop.

is it a THRILL RIDE, scott?

The politics is basically big government = apocalyptic death cult

well that's kind of true if you think about it, just look at Congress

I don't even remember the epigram at the beginning of Apocalypto

I don't really remember the torture tbh; I just remember high quality chasing

― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:42 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

a great civilization does not die from without unless it has killed itself from within.

something like that. basically, the mayans deserved to get conquered by the europeans because look at how savage and brutal they were.

I mean, maybe if we didn't know as much as we know about mel gibson's worldview the epigram would have been more palatable

yeah but rilly its about running after this dude

makes u think

i understand it's meant to be mel's medidation on how a godless society destroys itself. the best answer in his own case being 'white people show up' just makes it funny i guess (haven't seen it btw)

xps

i won't watch any new mel movies. don't want to pretend i don't know what a freak he is. and i kinda wish he would go away forever now. mayan movie got in under the wire. or something. i caught it on t.v.

the whole middle part is basically 'look at these disgusting savages (no, literally, they're disgusting savages)'

I got turned off on him once he started making bullshit like Maverick and What Women Want, I jumped off the Mel train a long time ago.

the whole middle part is basically 'look at these disgusting savages (no, literally, they're disgusting savages)'
^^^

so it's like passion of the christ with more running

passion of the fugitive?

mostly. Mayans = Romans, Jesus = some schmuck from the wrong tribe

logan's passion

and in between there's lots of stabbing, beheading, disemboweling, etc.

you're selling me on this more than the ppl who like it, Shakey

what women want's getting my #1 vote in the romcom poll

something like that. basically, the mayans deserved to get conquered by the europeans because look at how savage and brutal they were.

Well that plays in more than one direction, doesn't it? The sense I came away with from the movie at the time (which I would need to rescreen to see if this reaction makes any sense or if I'm constructing memories based on Wikipedia summaries) is that it could be taken to mean that the Mayans would have had better luck repelling the Europeans had they not spent most of their time killing everyone around them.

There are also specific spoilery things I won't talk about since VG hasn't seen the movie that make it more ambiguous than whatever distasteful idea Mel had in mind when putting the thing together.

Ultimately, I just thought it was an enjoyable chase flick. Whatever actual violence was going on didn't even register to me as obscene or out of line; I literally have no memory of it, and you guys are talking like it's the entirety of the movie! (contrast with Bad Boys II where I very vividly remember both the bodies getting thrown out of the back of the hearse and the dude who got chopped up and put in a bin and the body parts flying all over the place during the siege on the bad guy's mansion, etc etc)

i checked the recording this morning and got as far as the epigram and was like "ohhhh boyyyy...."

This is the quote: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - W. Durant

PS the good guys and the hero are also "savages". I didn't see it as racist.

i totally disagree that the movie is saying "look at what savages these savages were," it was a pretty faithfully researched and respectfully made movie, it took a LOT of care to not repeat cliches, if you come away thinking "disgusting savages" i think that says more about u tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_99mcINufQ

s1ocki what are u saying about dayo

Okay I've decided I will watch this. *deep sigh*

i totally disagree that the movie is saying "look at what savages these savages were," it was a pretty faithfully researched and respectfully made movie, it took a LOT of care to not repeat cliches, if you come away thinking "disgusting savages" i think that says more about u tbh

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol like how human sacrifice was historically an aztec ritual and not a mayan one, even though the film depicted mayans?

sacrifice scene in the above clip is almost 100% bullshit - Mayans didn't rip out hearts, decapitate, and pile bodies at the bottom of pyramids fyi

mine did

This is the quote: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - W. Durant

PS the good guys and the hero are also "savages". I didn't see it as racist.

― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:59 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk the idea of a 'noble savage' is pretty problematic in its own right imo

Because Maya society was organised as independent city states, the local political and religious elites could independently initiate human sacrifices as they saw fit. De Landa notes that a common cause for temple sacrifices in many cities was the occurrence of "pestilences, dissensions, or droughts or the like ills". (p. 91) In such cases, slaves were usually purchased and after a variety of rituals were anointed with blue dye and either shot with arrows through the heart or held on an altar while the priest swiftly removed the heart using a ceremonial knife. In either case the heart was presented to the temple idol, which was also anointed with blood. (pp. 48–49) According to Bancroft, one tribe sacrificed illegitimate boys twice a year, again by removing the heart, but collecting the blood in a bowl and scattering it to the four cardinal compass points within the temple.

do you see how many blue bodies are piled at the bottom in that scene btw

(seriously this thread has delivered on so many levels, I can't even tell you guys)

human sacrifice - check
blue bodies - check
heat being cut out - check

hey s1ocks I'm reading the same wikipedia article and where does it mention they were thrown off of temples

it's in the 'dayo is being a big nitpicker' section

I'm not sure throwing the bodies off the temple is an offensive addition to the act of human sacrifice, if Mel just made that part up entirely.