it's pretty much a given at this point that a good 40% of ILE film conversation around a movie is going to involve arguments that make one question if the person making the argument actually watched the movie
Yeah, I feel like there are some pretty simple movies about which critics seem to get confused.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
hey that's why HE'S the punisher xp
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
1. Until Neo become The One he's only able to defy the laws of physics to a certain extent (did you miss all the training etc?)
sure, but why are all the entities that control the matrix - Agent Smith, etc. - observing the laws of physics, using guns etc
― erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.elec-intro.com/EX/05-14-22/jamie_bio.jpg
myth busted, dudes, move on
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
guys, I watched Robocop last night and it was sooooo great
the last two minutes alone are mind-boggling great
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
... You're asking why software entities that existed within a framework operated largely under the confines of that framework?
Also, what are the physics behind Smith taking over other entities and turning them into clones of himself?
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp Is it like a Neuromancer thing (warning: 20 years or so since i read Neuromancer)? The computerised data streams or w/e are constructed along recognisable human lines to make them easier to operate. Yes when you are walking down the street you are only shifting data/programming, but by making it something natural like walking or, er, firing a gun, then it makes it easier to manipulate that data. I mean give a shit really, but if you're looking for something to hang your hat on it might do.
― The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
hey ease up nerds this is the action thread
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
TOO LATE
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
The Agents were versions of a program in The Matrix that operate with certain system permissions. The Smith one was corrupted and was able to use a hack to gain escalated permissions although he still lacked access to core system functions.
This will make it all completely clear, and I am sure it is exactly what the Wachowskis were thinking when they wrote it:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(computer_security)
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
btw Neo was just escalating permissions but in the later films he learns how to use "sudo" and eventually gains ring 0 access
This all correlates with the first draft of the script where the humans were not a power source, but in fact the actual hardware the matrix ran on.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
the root password is "kungfu"
― silverfish, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
was changed in 3rd movie to Wux1a
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
why didn't some admin go in and just delete Neo's user account
― erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
with a bullet
we can all agree that Bound was pretty good though, right?
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
yep
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
this is basically the entire Neo/Agent Smith conflict across all three movies
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
this reminds me of the complaints about dream levels in inception not being dream-like
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
those, uh, dudes are making cloud atlas for 100 million dollars! they better not fuck up! i didn't read the book. movie stars:
Tom Hanks Hugh Grant Halle Berry Jim Broadbent Hugo Weaving Jim Sturgess James D'Arcy Ben McKeen Susan Sarandon Keith David David Gyasi Zhou Xun Doona Bae Ben Whishaw
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
i cdn't be bothered to finish Cloud Atlas, it felt like i was reading Myst: the Novelization. so they shd be at home.
― FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
Cloud Atlas is great, movie will be unbearable
Bound was terrible
― erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
huh, they are co-directing it with the dude who did run lola run. lola i didn't like, but i liked The International.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
The careers of Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tllly after "Bound" defy the laws of physics, presaging "The Matrix."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_94wGm5Prdv0/SdW7ZvASomI/AAAAAAAABqQ/uuemt7fVBkM/s400/2835-tilly%26gershon+Bound.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
Bound was cool *folds arms*
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
Also, Joey Pants rules.
also cf: 90's hot
did starfucker Cornel West play a "software entity"?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
starfucker Cornel West played a human outside of the Matrix
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
so... no
Man, I was watching "Still Bill," and when Cornel West shows up, just to hang, I was, like, there is literally no reason for Cornel West to be in a Bill Withers doc.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
Fuck that dude for ruining the Matrix sequel.
well, someone was running a camera, and it is West's first instinct to leap in front of any recording camera
dude has ruined many a family holiday
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
so you have relatives who admire him for speaking truth to power?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
gina gershon should be the most famous actress alive. i wish she were in every movie.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
cloud atlas the book is great!
― max, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
love gina gershon
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh man there is some terrible/awesomely campy movie where she plays a rock musician which you MUST SEE if you haven't already
― erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah much love for the Gersh, even if Bound is terrible
xpost sounds like he just crowds into all family photos.
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's Lent, why are you here
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
No one keeps Cornel out. No one!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
she's sexy and everything but she's so adorable too! such a cutey. she should at least have a cool one hour hbo show or something. i can't actually remember the last thing i saw her in.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
No one keeps Morbz out. No one!
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://cloud.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/CornelWest.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
xxposts to Shakey: that Gina movie was Prey For Rock N Roll. Total awesome cheese
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
AND BOUND IS NOT TERRIBLE
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Last thing I saw her in was ... "The Insider." Could do worse, as far as last things I saw you in goes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kTVqaEt7tI