Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

don't let yrself be hurt this time

oh man, the angelo badalementi thing at the beginning of this mix!

http://soundcloud.com/everybodywantstobethedj/nicolas-jaar-essential-mix-05

<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvSFOEfHJE

still one of my all time favorite you tubes, such a great storyteller!

This is probably a common speculation but it just hit me - - - does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge. Or am I crazy?

Also (I'm rewatching btw, or re-listening...have this on in another window while I get stuff done, it's like a radio play!) I think a lot of what was missing in the second season also was just that with the Laura thing wrapped up, the emotional stakes for the characters just naturally went way down. Lynch or no Lynch - - - there's something that resonates and creeps out much more when everyone is reeling from this death. Like, just now was the scene with Leland crying and dancing at the Great Northern while the visiting Finns struggle to understand what's going on, and Catherine passes his strained crying and face-wrenching as a new dance move. There's a really potent tension there between the goofiness of the stock "character does something wacky, others think it's a new dance craze!" gag, and the genuine affective touch of this poor guy who's lost his daughter (we don't yet know he's the killer) and is just a traumatized wreck. Nothing in Season 2 can touch that but it's not ... oh shit the scene with leo and shelley and the gun just came on

This is probably a common speculation but it just hit me - - - does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge. Or am I crazy?

― Doctor Casino, Friday, May 25, 2012 8:00 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this makes a TON of sense.

Oh man, I'd forgotten the amnesiac super-strength Nadine thing started well before the Laura Palmer resolution. Wow. I wonder if there was ever a plan for how that was going to fit in, or if it was just a product of "let's turn soap opera cliches to 11" thinking.

does anyone else feel like the final storyline with Cooper going into the Black Lodge for Annie was originally intended for Audrey before their relationship was squelched? It would make a lot more sense in terms of the idea of Coop being somehow corrupted or making an error of judgement. He falls for the teenager and this takes him off his guard as well as off the pedestal of moral clarity where he could have conceivably stood up to the Black Lodge.

Yeah, this makes sense. As discussed upthread, the "flaw" that allows the Black Lodge to corrupt Cooper seems to be him falling for Annie... But that feels weird, because the there's nothing wrong or immoral in their relationship, they're both adults and single. If (as it seems) Annie was introduced as a replacement for the Cooper/Audrey relationship Kyle MacLachlan squelched, they should've at least added some immoral element to their relationship so that Coop's corruption would've made sense.

Audrey in the Black Lodge also would have made an interesting variation on the midway-point storyline where he rescues her from another "red room" (at One-Eyed Jack's); this time, getting her out comes at the cost of his own life/soul.

if only they had license to drive-era heather graham.

actually they should just redo season 2 with CGI.

all of the shit plotlines they can just replace with an extended subplot of agent cooper battling various giant beasts on mars or something.

Surprised no one has (to my knowledge) done a fan-edit just axing 1/3 to 1/2 of the post-Leland running time. Sure, a few things wouldn't exactly make sense, but in Twin Peaks that'd just feel like part of the ambience.

TBH that still wouldn't save a lot of the later episodes.

went here last night for the inaugural screening of the Twin Peaks pilot & episode 1, great to see this on a big screen with a crowd of appreciative people.

sometimes I think Major Briggs is my favorite character. all his dialogue is aces.

The other day it occurred to me that Dr. Jacoby is David Cross's (soon-to-be) father-in-law.

Major Briggs going into 'father mode' with Bobby is one of my fav things.

Rebellion in a young man your age is a necessary fact of life, and, candidly, a sign of strength. In other words, Robert, I respect your rebellious nature. However, being your father, I am obligated to contain that fire of contrariness within the bounds established by society as well as those within our family structure.

^ya just watched that one yesterday too. certain characters kinda steal whatever scene they're in - it's been a while since i watched the whole series but i didn't remember thinking nadine was as hilarious as she is in the first couple eps

dude who was showing it pointed out how well-cast the series is and how much that holds things together, which struck me as being very true. whenever I'm presented with a scene that I'm not particularly interested in or seems draggy, there's always at least one castmember doing something interesting - and what's more, the scene is likely to be over shortly and followed by something else with an entirely different set of castmembers - so at any given point in the series there's almost always some acting worth watching. having such a varied and dynamic cast really gives it a remarkable depth.

whoa thread opened to that Donahue clip posted in August. in Twin Peaks context it just seems creepy even though it's just 80s tv. i used to love Donahue for some reason. i'm sure i watched or set the vcr to tape that when it aired bc i was so into Twin Peaks. that is something.

went to another episode screening last night, included Leland's capture/death episode

this time around was struck by how much Peggy Lipton/Norma seems to be channelling Joan Crawford throughout the series

drew this on the chalkboard at our practice/work space
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/amdraheim/NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE/388ef1af.jpg

thinkin next i'll do the map from Time Bandits.

whoa

if you could draw that from memory I think you have officially watched this show too much

haha no. i used an overhead projector.

That is so rad.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8311326/twenty-things-david-lynch-fire-walk-its-20th-anniversary

yaay

lol

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i'm at season 2x12 and i don't really care about anything that's happening any more. is it worth continuing?

yes

The next few are probably the absolute low point TBH - but you've come this far! And there are legitimate highs up ahead.

gotta see all of the gordon cole scenes

okay, if there's more gordon to come i'll stick it out. I CAN DO IT.

I just finished season 1 of True Blood. The synthesizers playing in the background during Jason and Amy scences remind me of the Donna and James scenes in Twin Peaks. True Blood was all right until the ***SPOILER*** CAJUN ACCENT FOR ACTORS cassette.

Series finale is totally worthwhile.

you've gotta power through, merdeyeux.

special dancefloor at our halloween party saturday night
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Awwwwwesome.

that is great! anyone especially adept at doing the slow motion backward shuffle?

http://www.michaeljacksonanimatedgifs.com/images/portfolio/motown5.gif

that is beautiful, andrew m.

also merdeyeux, you will miss the best line delivered by gordon cole/lynch in almost all of TP

http://stat.mobli.com/media_stills/media_2396985.jpg

Wow @ that dance floor! Fantastic.
Finished my re-watch (never saw the finale when it originally aired though) last saturday with eps 26 -29. Season 3 c/would've been awesome.

THE WORK 'LINKAGE' REMINDS ME OF SAUSAGE. NEVER CARED MUCH FOR THE LINKS. PREFERRED THE PATTIES.

i didn't see your post before, table, but i just came here to say that even if the remaining four episodes are terrible i'll get by on the good vibes from gordon's conversation with shelly.

I CAN HEAR YOU PERFECTLY!