Favourite Miyazaki film

i will never forgive disney's dub team for making the cat in kiki talk at the end. kills the entire metaphor.

Billy Bob Thornton's voice casting in Princess Mononoke was particularly jarring for me

billy bob in mononoke was inspired!

I don't like Miyazaki still.

huh?

Also, want to say from memory that Miyazaki (et all) have trouble with endings, a la Hitchcock and Spielberg.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, maybe, but howl is the only miyazaki flick that i think is seriously undermined by its ending. the rest i'm good with. haven't seen arrietty (wtf is up w that name).

english voice acting has never bothered me, cuz i mostly watch these in japanese. did like bbt in mononoke.

Arietty is the actual name of Mary Norton's main character –– a corruption of Harriet, if I remember rightly.

lol, never read the borrowers. okay then.

except i think i actually did, but have forgotten most of it

i watched ponyo with a friend the other week and a few minutes in we had a little cynical lol about how obvious the impending environmental theme was, and then... it kind of disappeared? i guess that showed us, but as much as i enjoyed it at the end i kinda felt i didn't know what it was about.

it's about ponyo, who is a girl fish with magical adventures, duh

i get you though. it's p nonsensical. i like that about it, tbh.

who are you awful awful people that you watch the dubbed versions

just finished watch arrietty - everybody otm, felt like a miyazaki film. things I loved:

-the fluid dynamics. when they pour tea, it comes out a drop at a time.
-the tall big person boy is so weak and going to die and can't do any physical exercise but the borrowers are on some ninja warrior shit 24/7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oco3lPfokaU

I hated "Ponyo."

Also, dubbing is a non-issue when it comes to most cartoons. I mean, they're all dubbed!

not that it's miyazaki, but i watched pom poko the other night (studio ghibli flick abt raccoon balls). was weird.

Nausicää is my favorite, followed by Castle in the Sky, then Kiki's Delivery Service. Still need to see the Lupin movie, Totoro and Princess Mononoke, though.

Also: really disliked Ponyo when I saw it in theatres, but that could've been due in part to the English dub.

ponyo didn't really grab me

it isn't directed by miyazaki, but the secret world of arrietty is fucking a plus. amazing movie. much more conventional narratively than ponyo (whose plot really irritated me despite all the beautiful animation of water and such) but no worse for that. just amazing.

for the voice of the dad will arnett seemed to be channeling christian bale's batman.

Ponyo's ending is even worse than Howl's. Miyazaki's never been too good at endings - the few I can think of off the top of my head tend to involve some hurried deus ex machina thing, but it doesn't usually matter because it's the ride that counts.

Just realised Josh In Chicago said the same thing.

for the voice of the dad will arnett seemed to be channeling christian bale's batman.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

I watched the japanese audio version and the dad was voiced by a gruff dude

so so so glad that I didn't have to think about gob at all during my viewing

pom poko is great

greatness tempered constant raccoon balls

*tempered by

i would say "muddled with" rather than "tempered by"

*tempted by

infused

thought pom poko was really up and down. story, impact, themes & more naturalistic animation = GREAT. otoh, at least half the comedy & anthro tanuki action was really lame & grating.

Nausicää is my favorite, followed by Castle in the Sky, then Kiki's Delivery Service. Still need to see the Lupin movie, Totoro and Princess Mononoke, though.

― tanuki, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:24 AM (16 hours ago)

^^^ correct first and second choice :D
I'd throw Porco Rosso in at #3

Nausicaä is pretty good, but sadly I read the comic first, and even though the movie is a fine adaptation, it just doesn't manage to convey the richness of the comic's themes. (Partially because the comic wasn't finished when the movie came out.)

Here's how I'd rate Miyazaki's films, to to bottom:

Totoro
Castle in the Sky
Porco Rosso
Nausicaä
Ponyo
Lupin III
Mononoke
Moving Castle

I still haven't seen Kiki, need to correct that soon.

Oh sorry, add Spirited Away there, between Nausicaä and Ponyo.

Miyazaki's never been too good at endings

This is nuts! Kiki - awesome ending! Mononoke - awesome ending! Totoro - awesome ending! Laputa - awesome ending!

Totoro | Spirited Away | Kiki's Delivery Service
Mononoke | Castle in the Sky | Ponyo | Howl's Moving Castle
Porco Rosso | Nausicaa | The Castle of Cagliostro | Cat Returns

Cat Returns is not Miyazaki.

oh. it wasn't very good, anyway.

Eh, i consider ghibli close enough

i LOVE cat returns, one of my favorite ghibli films (a long list, admittedly)

The ending of Mononoke might look halfway cool but it's absolute garbage. The forest spirit is a stupid way to wrap up a movie.

otm

notm

mononoke ending is v satisfying

I was being sarcastic

If Miyazaki is so bad at endings, why am I always moved to tears at the end of his movies??? That doesn't happen at movies with good endings (except for Cold Mountain, I was v mad at myself for crying at that).

subtlety is lost on me

xp

The endings aren't usually stupid. There might be three dissenters here but they only make up a minority

loved this! saw it today. so well written - understated and elegiac. and the animation was gorgeous - so carefully drawn and so lush. really one of the best - up there with totoro, spirited away and kiki in my eyes. maybe the best of the bunch actually (tho i haven't seen spirited away in awhile and i do remember how much i loved it)