I don't like Miyazaki still.
― "HUH?" (admrl), Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
huh?
― Mordy, Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Also, want to say from memory that Miyazaki (et all) have trouble with endings, a la Hitchcock and Spielberg.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah, maybe, but howl is the only miyazaki flick that i think is seriously undermined by its ending. the rest i'm good with. haven't seen arrietty (wtf is up w that name).
english voice acting has never bothered me, cuz i mostly watch these in japanese. did like bbt in mononoke.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
Arietty is the actual name of Mary Norton's main character –– a corruption of Harriet, if I remember rightly.
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
lol, never read the borrowers. okay then.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
except i think i actually did, but have forgotten most of it
i watched ponyo with a friend the other week and a few minutes in we had a little cynical lol about how obvious the impending environmental theme was, and then... it kind of disappeared? i guess that showed us, but as much as i enjoyed it at the end i kinda felt i didn't know what it was about.
― shart practice (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
it's about ponyo, who is a girl fish with magical adventures, duh
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i get you though. it's p nonsensical. i like that about it, tbh.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
who are you awful awful people that you watch the dubbed versions
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
just finished watch arrietty - everybody otm, felt like a miyazaki film. things I loved:
-the fluid dynamics. when they pour tea, it comes out a drop at a time. -the tall big person boy is so weak and going to die and can't do any physical exercise but the borrowers are on some ninja warrior shit 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oco3lPfokaU
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
I hated "Ponyo."
Also, dubbing is a non-issue when it comes to most cartoons. I mean, they're all dubbed!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
not that it's miyazaki, but i watched pom poko the other night (studio ghibli flick abt raccoon balls). was weird.
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
Nausicää is my favorite, followed by Castle in the Sky, then Kiki's Delivery Service. Still need to see the Lupin movie, Totoro and Princess Mononoke, though.
― tanuki, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
Also: really disliked Ponyo when I saw it in theatres, but that could've been due in part to the English dub.
― tanuki, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
ponyo didn't really grab me
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
it isn't directed by miyazaki, but the secret world of arrietty is fucking a plus. amazing movie. much more conventional narratively than ponyo (whose plot really irritated me despite all the beautiful animation of water and such) but no worse for that. just amazing.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
for the voice of the dad will arnett seemed to be channeling christian bale's batman.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
Ponyo's ending is even worse than Howl's. Miyazaki's never been too good at endings - the few I can think of off the top of my head tend to involve some hurried deus ex machina thing, but it doesn't usually matter because it's the ride that counts.
― Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
Just realised Josh In Chicago said the same thing.
― Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
I watched the japanese audio version and the dad was voiced by a gruff dude
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
so so so glad that I didn't have to think about gob at all during my viewing
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
pom poko is great
― Pup Shalom Dog Costume (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
greatness tempered constant raccoon balls
― Moodles, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
*tempered by
i would say "muddled with" rather than "tempered by"
― Pup Shalom Dog Costume (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
*tempted by
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
infused
thought pom poko was really up and down. story, impact, themes & more naturalistic animation = GREAT. otoh, at least half the comedy & anthro tanuki action was really lame & grating.
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
― tanuki, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:24 AM (16 hours ago)
^^^ correct first and second choice :DI'd throw Porco Rosso in at #3
― monkeys on the ceiling fan, ceiling fan (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
Nausicaä is pretty good, but sadly I read the comic first, and even though the movie is a fine adaptation, it just doesn't manage to convey the richness of the comic's themes. (Partially because the comic wasn't finished when the movie came out.)
Here's how I'd rate Miyazaki's films, to to bottom:
TotoroCastle in the SkyPorco RossoNausicaäPonyoLupin IIIMononokeMoving Castle
I still haven't seen Kiki, need to correct that soon.
― Tuomas, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
Oh sorry, add Spirited Away there, between Nausicaä and Ponyo.
Miyazaki's never been too good at endings
This is nuts! Kiki - awesome ending! Mononoke - awesome ending! Totoro - awesome ending! Laputa - awesome ending!
― Stevie T, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
Totoro | Spirited Away | Kiki's Delivery ServiceMononoke | Castle in the Sky | Ponyo | Howl's Moving CastlePorco Rosso | Nausicaa | The Castle of Cagliostro | Cat Returns
― a serious minestrone rockist (remy bean), Friday, 9 March 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
Cat Returns is not Miyazaki.
― Tuomas, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:27 (twelve years ago) link
oh. it wasn't very good, anyway.
― a serious minestrone rockist (remy bean), Friday, 9 March 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
Eh, i consider ghibli close enough
― God: Huummm (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 March 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
i LOVE cat returns, one of my favorite ghibli films (a long list, admittedly)
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
The ending of Mononoke might look halfway cool but it's absolute garbage. The forest spirit is a stupid way to wrap up a movie.
― monkeys on the ceiling fan, ceiling fan (CaptainLorax), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 9 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
notm
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
mononoke ending is v satisfying
I was being sarcastic
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
If Miyazaki is so bad at endings, why am I always moved to tears at the end of his movies??? That doesn't happen at movies with good endings (except for Cold Mountain, I was v mad at myself for crying at that).
― Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
subtlety is lost on me
xp
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
The endings aren't usually stupid. There might be three dissenters here but they only make up a minority
― monkeys on the ceiling fan, ceiling fan (CaptainLorax), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
loved this! saw it today. so well written - understated and elegiac. and the animation was gorgeous - so carefully drawn and so lush. really one of the best - up there with totoro, spirited away and kiki in my eyes. maybe the best of the bunch actually (tho i haven't seen spirited away in awhile and i do remember how much i loved it)
― Mordy, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
also will arnett did not bother me at all! i thought he did a great job as the dad.
― Mordy, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
i have never seen any of these but my kids watched Nausicaa the other week and seemed pretty into it
― buzza, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
cosco has most of these in their movie section now
― monkeys on the ceiling fan, ceiling fan (CaptainLorax), Monday, 19 March 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link