Spielberg & Kushner's Munich '72 / Israeli vengeance film

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what happened to the new world? I thought that was coming out on thanksgiving?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

It's coming out on Christmas weekend, I think.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Let the political firefight begin:

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/001430.html


His second film of the year with not-so-oblique 9/11 associations.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

wow. how interesting... thanks for linking to that morbius. i'm going to see this next wednesday and my interest is even more piqued than before!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i liked it

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Good... All the right ppl are disliking it...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh.

1. King David Hotel: The bombing of the King David Hotel, which served as headquarters of the British administration in Palestine, killed 91 Arabs, Jews, and Brits in 1946. Two future Prime Ministers of Israel, David Ben Gurion and Menachem Begin, masterminded the attack. Disguised as Arabs, members of Begin's Irgun placed 350kg of explosives inside the building. In this action-packed thriller, David (Pierce Brosnan) — a British officer ordered to hunt down the killers — falls for Margaret (Uma Thurman), an American journalist working for Life Magazine. But is Margaret really in love or is she a secret Zionist assassin out to stop David in his tracks?

2. Nakba: A story of innocent love in a time of war and tragedy. Layla (Penelope Cruz) & Salam (Orlando Bloom) are a Romeo & Juliet against the backdrop of the 1948 Nakba, the Palestinian national catastrophe. During the Nakba, over 700,000 Palestinians fled — voluntarily & involuntarily — their homes. Can their love survive conflict?

3. USS Liberty: When Israeli boats and fighter jets attack the US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty in the middle of the 1967 Six Day War, 34 US servicemen are killed and 173 are wounded. The official word from Washington and Tel Aviv is that the attack was a mistake. But Brad Pitt & Tom Cruise, who play surviving officers from the Liberty, swear vengeance after discovering that the attack was actually part of a plot to start World War III.

4. Sabra & Shatila: It's 1982 and the war in Lebanon rages on. British war correspondent Robert Fisk (Star Wars star Ewan MacGregor) hides in the camps of Sabra & Shatilla, while a Lebanese militia aided and abetted by Israel slaughters thousands of Palestinian refugees. Sahar (Sandra Bullock) is a Palestinian mother determined to protect her family at any cost.

5. Vanunu: A political thriller set in Israel, Australia, Thailand, England, and Italy. "Syriana" star George Clooney plays Mordechai Vanunu, the nuclear technician who exposes Israel's nuclear weapons program and pays the ultimate price. Nicole Kidman plays Cheryl Bentov, the American Mossad agent who seduces and kidnaps him.

6. Hebron: A story of tragedy and torn loyalties. In 1994, Brooklyn Jewish doctor Baruch Goldstein opened fire on Muslim worshippers in Hebron, killing 29. Palestinian American Mazen Khalili (Tom Hanks), a State Department official assigned to investigate the massacre, struggles with his job responsibilities and his roots. Leah Rabinowitz (Meg Ryan) is a Jewish American journalist who discovers a dark family secret that will change her life forever.

7. Qana: On April 18, 1996, Israeli shelling of a UN Compound that shelters Lebanese refugees kills more than 100 & injures over 300 men, women, and children. Jessica (Angelina Jolie) is a UN worker determined to let the world know what happened after witnessing the atrocity. Yossi (Robert De Niro) is a Mossad agent assigned to kill Jolie.

8. Gaza: Chris Hedges (Harrison Ford), a New York Times correspondent in Jerusalem, files stories from his hotel room. Hedges reaches a turning point when he witnesses Israeli soldiers killing young Palestinian boys for sport, then defies his editors by writing stories that humanize Palestinians. David Schwimmer & Sarah Jessica Parker make cameo appearances as the parents of Muhammad al-Durra, the 12 year old Palestinian boy killed by Israeli troops in 2000.

9. Rachel: Rachel Corrie (Gwyneth Paltrow) is the idealistic young American activist crushed to death by the Israeli army with a Caterpillar bulldozer. Sally Field, well-known for her role in "Not Without My Daughter", plays Rachel's mother.

10. Refuseniks: When a fellow soldier commits suicide after killing an unarmed pregnant Palestinian woman (played by Natalie Portman) in cold blood, two young Israeli soldiers (Matt Damon and Ben Affleck) decide that the occupation and the killing of Palestinians is immoral and unjust.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Good... All the right ppl are disliking it...

Out of curiosity, who would that include?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

For starters, The New Republic, Matt Drudge and similar lamebrains, and assorted Zionist hoodlums (apologies to Vanessa Redgrave).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Developing...

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, I thought you meant crit-wise, like Ebert had come out swinging. "WORSE THAN THE BROWN BUNNY AND NO BOOBS" or something.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm too busy today but some actual thoughts on this movie tomorrow

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"For starters, The New Republic, Matt Drudge and similar lamebrains, and assorted Zionist hoodlums (apologies to Vanessa Redgrave)."

This is not shocking (nothing indicated that this movie was going to be a sop to the Israeli ultra-right.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Edelstein, "best movie of the year."

http://www.slate.com/id/2133050/?nav=fo

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

J. Hoberman in this week's Voice: "Spielberg's greatness as a filmmaker can be grotesquely overstated (see his reviews in the New York Press)."

Armond White in this week's New York Press: "But that doesn’t mean Munich peddles lofty bromides. The sun doesn’t rise over a happily united Holy Land. Actually, Munich may be the most down-and-dirty espionage movie ever made—more moving and exacting than any film produced during the Cold War. Call Spielberg “The artist who came in from the cold,” bringing humane standards to a medium that regularly earns profit by the cool exploitation of man’s inhumanity to man. Scenes of killing, and the moments of cunning that lead up to death, are done here with absolute, graphic realism. (Nothing is cheaply ironic like blood splashing on a portrait of Jesus in Capote’s massacre scene.) Spielberg’s almost casual, reportorial observation of murder is intimate, shocking and reverberates long after the movie is over. Watching the savagery in the Israeli athlete’s dormitory feels so much like an existential trap that it has dull, dreadful terror. That refusal to “wow” proves Spielberg’s respect for history; it is shown through his exquisitely subtle technique that calls on our imagination and thus moves one to utter sorrow."

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 22 December 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

War of the Worlds was dreadful.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Worlds a lot and even forgot Tom Cruise was in it.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 22 December 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you forget that Morgan Freeman was in it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Armond White's review of Munich is one of the most idiotic I have ever read.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

munich is great

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 December 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

it is pretty great. harrowing even. the final act, with many of the characters seemingly stuck in a permanent spiritual exile, is devastating.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 24 December 2005 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link

every armond white review i've ever read ranks as one of the most idiotic ever

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 December 2005 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard an interview on NPR (US public radio) this week with the Israeli journalist who is the author of the book that "Munich" is LOOSELY based on. He said that all of the moral hand-wringing in the movie, probably one of the things some people like most, is completely Spielberg (and the screenwriters). In real life, none of the Israeli agents had any cmpunctions about what they were doing, or felt like anything other than heroes.

Mitya (mitya), Saturday, 24 December 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i am interested in this, b/c it seems almost a fight b/w americas two great moralists (kushner and speilberg), and i think kushner might have interesting things to say.

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link

bold claim anthony!

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link

not really, it was kind of banal,

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 24 December 2005 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Unless this is a much better thriller than I am anticipating it will be from the reviews, I have a feeling I am going to not like this film very much, but low expectations are always good for Spielberg films.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 24 December 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

it's not much of a thriller at all. it's kind of coldy fascinating though.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 24 December 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i never doubted that the hand-wringing came mostly from the filmmakers. nor do i really mind, it's drama (in a very old-fashioned way a lot of the time), not a documentary

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 24 December 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

this was pretty good i thought. it didn't know how to end, however.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

also not much of a ho ho ho holiday cheer.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

but it was either that or the producers and i'd rather eat glass, etc etc.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

producers was awesome! cant wait to see munich!

howell huser (chaki), Monday, 26 December 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

The movie was predictably meh, but there is a flashback sequence in this movie that is so laughably bad that I dare anyone (and that means you Armand White) to defend it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

strongo pretty otm about the ending... it shoulda just stopped earlier

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah there were about five points where i was like..."now!"

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

except ironically if it had ended at any of those five points it woulda felt like a flat ending too.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

That sex/violence intercutting at the end is even worse than everybody's been saying. And you don't even get to see Eric Bana's ass.

There were a few good moments here and there--the confrontation in the safe house in Athens was pretty hot. Well, till they got to the bit with the radio. Spielberg always fucks it up, doesn't he? I liked all the actors, though.

I saw Pat O'Brien waiting for popcorn at the theatre.

Gogi Ormsby-Gore (Arthur), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

also: eric bana looks like a very elongated corey feldman

also two: whoever played his wife, fucking hot

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

haha i would have kinda liked to see oliver stone direct this

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

hands up who expected to ever see pregnant fucking in a spielberg movie

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

man the photography is this really knocked me out... i'd always been pretty ambivalent as far as kaminski's stuff went... but wow.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

thankfully he didn't rock any of that blown-out blue-steel bs.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

was traffic's real legacy making everyone sick of all that blue?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i gotta admit there were a couple shots in there that kinda made me go "wow" under my breath

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i like spielberg, but then i am a big cornball.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i am glad he exists, because i am glad movies like this can be made on that kinda budget, and can get to the 14 multi-plex, and that people will actually go see them.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

god, the previews beforehand really hammered home the fact that, yes, i am about to watch a movie about israel/palestine in a mall with a tgifriday's attached to it.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

american dreamz...wtf?!

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 December 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

totally! and well... dude has skills! on display!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 December 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link


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