Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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tellya, when arshavin starts seeing his wages go back to zenit levels he'll be a worldbeater again

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

I remember Eamon Dunphy confidently declaring Arshavin "one of the best players in the world" after the quarter-final against Holland in Euro 2008. Next game: "we've had the wool pulled over our eyes with this guy, Bill". His Arsenal career in microcosm.

Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

dunphy and his woolly eyes eh

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

Arshavin just needs to move to LFC. He scores with every shot at Anfield iirc

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

arsenal were robbed in that game, i remember the outraged emails i exchanged at the time with my lfc correspondents

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

We'd need to buy a midfield capable of creating the opportunity first

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

I though we just did that? Oh no we sold/shipped them out on loan. My mistake.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

ismael and his ever-expanding 'we'

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

Think Arsenal are played 2 won 2 when they have 'superfan' IK in the 'audience'

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

Before this season I think my record w/Arsenal was seen-em-twice, drawn two, inc one heartbreaking cup exit; so I'm keeping us afloat this season afaict

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link

Ah no, that's not true, I did steer them to the double in 1998 as well. Wenger owes me.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any correlation between their results and the hairstyle you're sporting on each visit?

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

It's the dead celebrities I feel sorry for

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

I've only ever been to 7 LFC games. They have lost 4, drawn 3. I stay away now.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

we drew 0-0 with villa in my only trip to WHL

We've been beaten 3-1 and 1-0 in my trips to old trafford, cheating cunt ref every time iirc (imnrc)

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

Only four Liverpool games for me - 1 win, 2 draws, 1 defeat, one managerial heart attack.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

i like podolski a lot

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

If you carry on seeing 2/3 of your Spurs games at O.T then I fear you are destined to be disappointed Darragh.
xp

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

Nice job burying the lead there Ismael!

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

was he one of the celebrities ik

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

FWIW I've seen Spurs 8 times: 2 wins (including 4-0 against United and 5-2 or 5-1 against Everton), 2 draws, 4 defeats.

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

(that's not actually "including", is it? more "consisting of")

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

xp That he ended up at Villa was a worse fate tbh.

To be fair we didn't have a clue til we stopped at a pub after the game. Nowadays I could enjoy ilf banter and questionable puns within seconds.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

Wanna explain Kerr? I only ever really saw him for Germany (could be very good, but i'm glad they have ozil and gotze now) and Bayern (the drizzling shits).

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

Spurs four times - can't actually remember any of the other results (home v Leicester, Portsmouth and Wolves) but I think I had a 100% record 'til Sunday.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

Wish I'd kept track of my Arsenal attendances from the early years when I went five or six times a season as a JG. A few memorable ones include a 3-0 against Newcastle when Vieira scored the goal of the month and Freddie Ljungberg's debut against Man United (4-1 iirc).

Only away trips have been two to Old Trafford (9-2 on aggregate) and Villa in the only game of that season when we conceded three (after being 0-2 up at half time). That was also the game when a parachuting Father Christmas crashed into the upper tier of the stand and broke his leg in the plummet that followed.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

Impressed that ILFers have been on the spot for so much carnage and catastrophe.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

I was at the Johnny Haynes memorial match at Craven Cottage when he died in a car crash, but that wasn't *at* the game thankfully.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

Not saying this in a superior way - but are most people here TV viewers of their clubs rather than match attenders? These last few posts have quite surprised me.

xpost to Local Garda. Nowhere you'd want to drink near Wembley. The Globe at Baker St is always full of cretins. But you certainly want to drink at the central London end of your journey, not the Wembley end.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

most ppl everywhere are tv viewers tbf

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

Go down Baker Street a bit from the Globe to Paddington Street/Crawford Street if that's the way you're going (runs parallel to the Marylebone Road).

Fizzles, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

xpost As I say, not having a pop.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

(I am not a Spurs supporter, btw)

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

I probably go a couple of times a year, but I get quite excited about it when I do. Also it's kind of expensive and time-consuming. No regular side or location - I wish I'd got a season ticket for fulham when I lived nearby and they were only about £350, I don't know why I didn't. I've been trying to remember games all afternoon - it feels like a lot more than I'd thought, but that's more because I've been to plenty of grounds over plenty of years than anything else.

I can only think of the Villa or QPR lads here who might be week-in-week-outers.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

and Dan and the Celtic lot obviously

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

never been able to afford to go regularly, uni and unemployment not ideal, so for me it really is a 'treat' when i do go, which is usually twice a season. i saw us draw 1-1 with sunderland on the opening day of this season, beat wolves 2-1 in september, and was at the 6-1 v brighton a couple of weeks ago. i'm on the waiting list for a season ticket which will hopefully come through when we have a new stadium (20 years at this rate), and i'll be making an effort to go more often once i sort my life out.

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I followed Brighton quite regularly for about 5 seasons from the age of 12-17 ish. Had a season ticket etc. I always loved LFC more but obviously wasn't practical for a kid from Sussex to be going to Anfield. Nobody else in my family was into football so mostly went to games by myself.

Whenever Brighton were away further north than Watford I would go into London and watch either West Ham, Arsenal, Tottenham (this was the 1980s you could do that then with no problems with getting a ticket). A few too many run ins with an undesirable element at games meant I stopped going, coupled with Brighton's drop down the divisions meant I never really started going again aside from when mates could score me tickets to LFC away games in London.

Crawley is probably the closest Conference or above team to me and I've been 5 or 6 times but tbh the football was mostly crap and I was paying £12 for the privilege.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

I could conceivably afford a season ticket once my Masters finishes and I'm no longer forking out double rent, but I can think of many many better uses for the money tbh. My younger self would not understand this viewpoint at ALL.

Should probably go more often than I do though (only twice this season and only when someone has suggested it).

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

heh, it actually took saints dropping down the divisions to reignite my interest in going to games, as there was more chance of seeing them win - plus it was cheaper obv. i've been to more games in the last 2 years than in the previous 10. not sure i'll be able to maintain current levels of interest once they become whipping boys in the prem again.

jabba hands, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Chicago season tickets start around $200 so yeah, I go to every game. Usually good for 2-3 away games each season too (our nearest league rival is ~350 miles away).

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

I used to go a ton with my dad when I was little. 80s Scottish football was pretty great now I think about it, when you didn't know what it was going to turn into.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

btw if anyone ever wants a ticket for anfield then get in touch and you can use my fancard (provided you guard it with your life and return it to me safely!!!!!!!!!!!)

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

The game that always sticks in my memory is away at Portsmouth, pouring rain, no roof on the away end, Brighton lose 5-0. The police keep us in at the end of the game for 30 mins 'for our own safety' and the PA plays radio commentary of each Portsmouth goal, and then plays it again, and again. Soaking wet, incredibly depressed, wondering just what the hell I am doing there.

pandemic, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

There were season ticket holders, and then there were other fans. And then, last of all, there were fans who just watched on the TV.

And after them the ilf crew with their laptops.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Fair enough. I guess I was lucky to get into the football watching habit when it was still £3.50 to go and stand, and you could pick and choose which match to go to on a Saturday afternoon, rather than it being an operation of military precision to try to get one of the half dozen remaining tickets that go to general sale for most PL clubs. And nowadays, though I do resent the cost, I can afford to get a season ticket.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I used to go seven or eight times a season and stopping has basically coincided with Spurs becoming good. I should rectify this really :/

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting piece about pricing. That's certainly caused ructions at QPR when they've discounted some games. Mind you, the pricing strategy at QPR has long appeared to be: "What will cause the greatest unhappiness to the greatest number of people for the longest time? We'll do that."

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

yay gerrard starting tonight after a year out injured and 120 mins on sunday THANK YOU STUART

Chris, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/29/pepe-reina-race-row-tv-advert

haven't watched the video, how bad is it?

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link


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