*especially in what should be quiet scenes
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
i think you've mistaken "cold hard truth everyone is afraid to admit" with "utter falsehood nobody thinks is right"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
because they've been fooled~
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
maybe its a great album to sit down and listen to, i wouldnt know, but it's crappy shit when you're watching the movie.
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
the score is sublime at the beginning when it meshes with the sounds of the cityscape. you've gotta admit that.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean, i am exaggerating my distaste for it - there are moments where it's really effective. i love the end credits music, and i couldn't imagine batty's final scene without the score. i think the movie would've been more effective if there was less of it though (which i think holds true for a ton of movie scores). think how well the voight-kampff test plays with no music. the movie could've used more sonic breathing room like in that scene. i'm also going off the theatrical version, which is the one I've seen most recently, maybe the score's used differently in the final cut which i havent seen yet
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 2 March 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
Robocop is great because it has the Verhoeven seriousness-as-humor thing going for it. Robocop 2 is entertaining, but also troubling because it's nearly 0% ironic.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Which really codes as "Frank Miller wrote this" because the humor in the film is all based on people trying to repurpose the original Robocop as some sort of consensus-driven nice guy while really nefarious things are still going on.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
robocop 2 is nuts. not very good though (save for the robot fight towards the end).
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Friday, March 2, 2012 1:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
it was in either robocop 2 or robocop 3 (which one features the little punk teenager who gets inducted into the drug trade?) that the corrupt police officer gets vivisected - that gave me nightmares as a kid (and still does!)
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
Robocop 2.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
I must be one of the few people that does NOT take Deckard=replicant as a given, no matter wtf Ridley Scott thinks is going on and in the face of origami unicorns. Whether or not he is a replicant is less important to me than the fact that it's his interactions with replicants, not people, that allows *him* to develop the empathy that is supposed to mark one as "human."
― Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, whether you believe he's a replicant, human, or anything else doesn't really matter, since the main lines of contemplation are based around "what if" scenarios.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
Man, "They Live" could have been written last year.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
It's about Obama iirc
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Rowdy Obama Piper?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
No you put on the glasses and you can detect false birth certificates and non-citizens
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
I SEE MUSLIM PEOPLE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
i always wondered tho, if decky is a reppy, what is his backstory exactly? i guess they set him up as a set a thief to catch a thief kinda jobby?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
and doesnt it dilute the idea that batty is so much more of a 'real person' than deckard is, if that is so?
see those are the thoughts you have with the ambiguity. does it dilute the idea? hmm let me write an academic paper here
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
k im waiting
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, I got sort of the same vibe as I later did with "AI," that everything that happened was in some ways designed as a test. Obviously he's a replicant, or at least there's plenty to support that hypothesis; the ambiguity is why they let him go.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
deckard's replicant ambiguity is probably the least interesting thing about blade runner
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
i figured he was a creation like 'rachael', but put into life maybe decades before. it's probably the reason he was such a good detective, and may have been made exactly for that. but his own batty-esque story of irrepressible humanity happened years before the movie begins, when he had had enough and quit the force. batty knows what he is and knows how little time he has left, while deckard is in a fog of depression and indecision like every other human. so is he more human or less, for not knowing? idk i could go all day about this.
― goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Deckard was created five minutes before the opening of the movie and deposited at the noodle stand
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
well that's my theory blown
― goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
I like yr theory goole
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Not a bad theory, but Deckard is the ultimate unreliable narrator. He may as well have been created five minutes before the movie began.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
i'm in the process of designing a ronin coffee cup on zazzle fwiw, who wants one
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
me me
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
me me meeeeeeeee
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
does it have an lcd screen with BMW's zooming & screeching round and round?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
What does it say?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
doesn't say anything, just screws its mouth a little and shrugs noncommitally
― Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
i sent y'all a message w/the image
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
If it were me I'd just have the words, in white! But it's not me.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
ME OMAR ME
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
i thought about doing it w/just the images actually! too subtle?
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
check your email slox
omg that's awesome omar
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
i would love to see this
― goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
sent
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
still a work in progress, plus i want to do a test run and send a mug to myself for quality control.
killer
― goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
omar send it to me
― max, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
you got it~
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
it's already my favorite coffee cup in the history of everything
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
omes i think this image should be part of it
http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/884/228/29822488:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20110322065045
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
(or like a better version of that)
yeah i was trying to dig up a good coffee spill image, might have to do some digging. we can't rush something like this.
― omar little, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link