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xpost It was a birthday present! Her hair is not v Joan, but still awesome

I know Phil, ITS LIKE YOU'RE WATCHING

that sports bottle is incontrovertible proof that star trek: first contact is the ultimate expression of friz lang's metropolis.

lol

also are those stills from alphaville behind the borg head? star trek: first contact is also ultimate expression of godard.

'borg water bottle' is the kind of thing that seems funny but plausible when mentioned offhand but actually seeing it is like holy shit that exists, someone made it and someone else bought it

Water Borgle

Mad Men is definitely presented as a lifestyle choice -- there's a Mad Men collection at Banana Republic, after all. (Also, remember the little create-your-own Mad Men avatar meme that was used to promote Season 4?) That said, the show is more than just its marketing, and there are ways to engage with the narrative without engaging in all of the surrounding habits and discourses.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UUAh02DpXvU/TgAqQw70NgI/AAAAAAAADfk/KnGxlAjlgv0/s1600/jar-jar-binks-candy-tongue.jpg

behind water bottle: l-r Rat Pack, William S Burroughs

Mad Men is definitely presented as a lifestyle choice -- there's a Mad Men collection at Banana Republic, after all. (Also, remember the little create-your-own Mad Men avatar meme that was used to promote Season 4?) That said, the show is more than just its marketing, and there are ways to engage with the narrative without engaging in all of the surrounding habits and discourses.

idk you could frame harry potter as a lifestyle choice if you wanted

really i think theres often this kind of permission-granting, parameter-setting thing going on with the sort of cultural products that are 'beneath' the professional class from video games to real housewives to fantasy novels: the 'is it art' think piece, the 'what it tells us about ourselves' essay, the mocking recap all work to appropriate.

but these are manufactured products of mass culture. it isn't like they're talking about folk culture, or its contemporary equivalent. it isn't the same kind of appropriation that was at play in modernism.

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idk you could frame harry potter as a lifestyle choice if you wanted

― iatee, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh c'mon there's a pretty big difference between dressing up like wizards and fetishizing the clothing and social mores of the country you live in a couple decades before you were born

depends where you're from

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Which is...?

Hogwarts

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2004/02/29/ba_adams29.jpg

Full clemency.

i guess i missed Banana Republic's Harry Potter collection

what are we arguing about now?

i broke my own rule about getting lost in the rabbit hole of iatee's endless pointless devil's advocate act

i think there were fashion tie-ins with it, but it was the British schoolchild look, with blazers and knee socks or whatever

wesley crusher could be a mad men character -- he'd be the most likeable & interesting of the lot of them, too.

i think there were fashion tie-ins with it, but it was the British schoolchild look, with blazers and knee socks or whatever

oh sara, that's actually the Angus Young fashion tie-in.

wesley crusher could be a mad men character

character's name is Pete Campbell btw

Pete Campbell is way way way less annoying than wesley crusher was

Provided there aren't swastikas or pointed hoods involved, dressing up in costumes is dressing up in costumes, afaict.

u read my mind, shakey

what madmen needs is a worf.

what if Don Draper was a wookie?

actually isn't the madmen timeline now concurrent with historical airings of original series? maybe draper and co can visit the desilu studios and have drinkathons with shatner and nimoy

http://screeninvasion.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/scvp-mad-men.jpg

too meta ... and the OG star trek wasn't a hit when it was originally on network TV. draper et al would be more likely having drinkathons with the cast of i dream of jeannie or bewitched.

lol the title sequence to mad men could be a fight scene b/w Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker ... with one of them falling into the void.

Done and done.

Oh, never mind. They missed the obvious joke.

but these are manufactured products of mass culture. it isn't like they're talking about folk culture, or its contemporary equivalent

well except they are

But they're not -- they're just, no, it is a different dynamic. Perhaps it's condescending, but it isn't co-opting or appropriation in the way that term was orginally used

The Real Housewives of Buttmunch produced and aired on network television is not folk culture

^^^: an XXX parody

animated gifs are better examples of folk culture today, real housewives is entertainment as a product

lol lamp there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything

LARPing and A.V. Club comments are better examples of folk culture today.

animated gifs are better examples of folk culture today

i can agree with this

I agree w/ dwh also agree w/ sarahell agreeing with me

But they're not -- they're just, no, it is a different dynamic. Perhaps it's condescending, but it isn't co-opting or appropriation in the way that term was orginally used

yeah, sure, its a weak position really. but i mean the folk culture argument is p peripheral and im annoyed that i let bait me into it

"there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything"

america's folkiest home videos!

"there is no fucking way that anything that airs on tv - except on local access community channels maybe - is folk anything"

so would this make tim and eric awesome show folk-art or at least some simulacrum of folk-art?!?

(jesus, this is like i'm back in a 1990s-era 400-level english/comp lit criticism class)