To be fair, the driver also said something about dropping it off in the lost and found, implying it'd be changing hands again and neither of them would have responsibility anymore. I can see where Lane would rather take care of it as an honorable thing to do.
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
whole thing seems like a preamble to something else, hard to tell what
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Lane using mafia connections to set up some sort of future money and/or advertising deal, imo
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
i think it was just Lane being proper englishman to be compared later with his lechery over the photo and then contrasted with his meeting with the wallet owner and the whole, "this is how we do things here," spiel
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
def racist. I think they're setting up lane to have major issues with the eventual black hire?
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
what about his black girlfriend?
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
"I can't be a racist, some of my favorite mistresses are black"?
The irony of being called a gentlemen by a guy whose personal photo he has just stolen.
xposts
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
people are complicated. and i'm sure there are class issues too.i wish this show was as serious and thought out as it wanted to be. There's pretensions of DEEP MEANINGFUL SOCIAL EXPLORATION but it's all gloss
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i dunno about the lane = racist read. think the struggle with the cabdriver was there more to raise questions than to make any clear point.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
dudes it not like people are like "i am going to do this particular thing for a RACIST reason and this other thing for a CLASSIST reason"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
could be that it was a throwaway scene added to explain how he ends up with the photo and no-one really thought through WHY he would want to keep the stupid wallet in the first place.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
i wish this show was as serious and thought out as it wanted to be. There's pretensions of DEEP MEANINGFUL SOCIAL EXPLORATION but it's all gloss
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are you joking, what would you have liked to have happened in this situation, a deep meaningful exploration of layne's racism?
$100 in 1966 money is over $600 in 2010 money, and he sort of changed his mind after he noticed how much money was in there.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
perhaps it'd have been more clear if Lane had yelled "hands off, negro lackey! I will make sure this wallet returns to the place from whence it came!"
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
He gives the cabby his card and tips him.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
he sure does.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
"here's a tip, cabby. don't wade into the ilx mad men thread."
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
sort of agree, cuz i do wish it were willing do dig a little deeper, cut a little sharper, but my bigger problem is that it's starting to really feel like a traditional soap opera, in that, despite all the ups and downs, it doesn't really seem to be going anywhere. first few seasons gave me the sense that it's structure was novelistic, that these various pieces were being put in place to some meaningful narrative purpose.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
fucking "it's"
If you found a wallet in the back of a cab and was about to hand it to the cab driver and noticed it had $600 in it, and you were having money problems, what would you do?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
demon struggle
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
ilx mad men threads always make me glad the writers do their own kinda weird, sometimes inscrutable things and not the super obvious TV things everyone seems to always want them to do
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
ilx mad men threads are fun because so much of nothing happens in the show and yet we always have so much to talk about
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
I am throwing my buddha trinket at this thread.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah nothing happened, except the birthday party, the office-switching stuff, Joan bringing the baby into work, a steamy phone conversation, French pop musical number, commentary on the civil rights and occupy struggles, etc.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Don't forget the rough sex!
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
i think it was a mix of things but obviously a slight distrust of the cab driver had something to do w/ it. i liked this moment for the same reasons as s1ocki.
i liked the quiet irony of when layne dismissed 1/2 of the "negroes" by saying they were only hiring secretaries. even though the context was "civil rights" there are these narrowly defined gender roles (discrimination) that nobody in the room cared to question at that moment.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
also do you think that all the black folks showing up to apply for a job was just a spontaneous reaction to their "equal employment" ad or if it was a concerted action to test the sincerity of that ad?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, that whole "secretaries are female" thing, and that all of the black men (and women!) didn't really question it was a decent commentary on the mixed state of racial/gender/workplace politics
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
despite all the ups and downs, it doesn't really seem to be going anywhere.
Well, the show is going *somewhere*: to the end of the 1960s.
I'm not saying that to be snarky, either. I think a lot of the show's momentum comes from the anticipation of how the characters will react to and interact with the changing times.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
What do all of you think of the way with which the receptionist was canned? She was kind of iffy, but it was kind of a quick turnaround from "we don't need to hire anyone" to "weakest link on the chain just carried a racist statue through the entryway past the group that would be offended, dump her"
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
wait was she canned? i must have missed that.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
first few seasons gave me the sense that it's structure was novelistic, that these various pieces were being put in place to some meaningful narrative purpose
I think, like the Sopranos, they weren't sure where it was all going for the first couple seasons (might get cancelled! or in the Sopranos case have a major player die lol) and now that the show's place is secure and Wiener's given it an end-date, we are going to see some very methodical, multi-season plotting with a definite "narrative purpose".
also s1ocki OTM w this: glad the writers do their own kinda weird, sometimes inscrutable things and not the super obvious TV things everyone seems to always want them to do
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think that's a thing that happened, was it? xps
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
"weakest link on the chain just carried a racist statue through the entryway past the group that would be offended, dump her"
this was totally grounds for firing. she did a really stupid thing, which was immediately identified and she knew she should have known better.
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
i couldn't get a bead on how we are supposed to understand megan. was the presence of her arty/homosexual friends meant to underline the generational divide between her and her husband? that struck me as a bit over the top, her coquettish song-and-dance routine included.
i did like how almost everyone in the office had a different assumption of how don must have been reacting to that.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
Well, they had no open positions, then they asked her if she'd just carried it through the entryway past all the waiting people, and then the scene cut to them announcing an open receptionist position.
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
oh i see.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
the exchange between Meredith the receptionist and Joan was awesome in its awkwardness.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
this is kind of small potatoes, but i wish they had trusted the audience to get the point re. pete sending roger to staten island without underlining it -- i like when this show dares to handle things much more elliptically than is standard in TV.
The implication was that they solved the "how can we hire a black person without money" problem by taking advantage of the heedless receptionist's errors and firing her.
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
that's true, but the first couple seasons were built around these ticking-bomb plot devices: don's secret, peggy's secret, the suggestion that don's life and marriage were collapsing. it seemed as though an examination of an era were being tied to a narrative that was moving in a definite direction, like television's revolutionary road or something. the longer it's gone on, the the less there's any clear sense of overarching narrative structure. not saying that the more prosaic "here's what happened next" stuff that's replaced it is uninteresting or unsatisfying, and it's probably more true to life, but i do find myself a little frustrated by the lack of attention paid to some of the story threads that first attracted me. plus want more betty.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:41 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya i liked that you didnt actually see him at staten island but maybe it would have been better to not see him wake up at all and just have his little line about "pranks" or whatever to acknowledge that it had happened
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i think the whole party scene and the subsequent rape-sex were meant to underline the fact that megan and don have almost nothing in common with one another, aside from mutual physical attraction.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
I am actually content with less Betty in the show, now. The new problem of Don losing focus on his career could be more catastrophic than anything, really. His ability to pull things together has been pretty much key to his persona. I spent half the episode wondering if he'd just turned into a younger Roger Sterling.
― mh, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
and over the top or not, "zou bisou bisou" was so flippin great
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol misread it as 'mutant physical attraction' which also actually kinda otm
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
Don's arc is totally mirroring Sterling, this seems pretty blatant
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
Roger's the only father figure he has etc