― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 4 December 2003 05:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
I miss the visual style of the original most, I think. But I'm curious enough to watch part 2.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
Good Points:1) The Battle Scenes roXor!2) Ship design is excellent.3) The Female Starbuck was a good idea.
Bad Points1) The whole Cylons are now disguised as humans shtick.2) Costume design is a bad knockoff of Babylon 5.3) The bland bland bland guy playing Apollo was a bad idea. (I mean, shit, the guy from the original series was this Jim-Morrison looking sex symbol guy that it made sense for the hotties to be hanging all over him. This guy isn't merely bland, he's a boring actor.)4) The whole "Cylon chick who is devoutly religious" thing is probably going to either a) confuse the issues by adding fake spirituality or b) open a can of worms by implying that the heroes are all athiests "...as all good heroes should be..."; while hamfistedly making the bad guys all "Fundamentalists."
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link
I like the human Cylons! In theory. In moderation.
The religious Cylon thing ... boy, I'm not sure how to take that. Taking the religious subtext from the original and .. making it explicit and some kind of plot point? I guess? I don't know. We'll see how it turns out.
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link
(Or they could be riffing off Mormon stuff I don't know anything about, to be honest.)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link
I will definitely catch this Galactica miniseries at some point -- if it repeats while I'm at home over Xmas, then. Otherwise I'll wait on the inevitable DVD.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 04:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 07:45 (twenty years ago) link
Watched more of it this morning. I was quite impressed that they actually dealt with the mechanics of zero-g inertia with things moving in space and filled in the details of Viper maneuvering jets, etc.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
That's hardly a sophisticated assessment, but the original show starring Lorne Greene as Adama and Richard Hatch as his star-pilot son was hardly a sophisticated hour of television. In fact, the original "Battlestar Galactica" was a cheesy low-brow piece of science fiction entertainment that lasted only one season.No. It lasted at least three, and had an (admittedly awful) sequel.
As in the original show, the malevolent Cylons were once a race of shiny tin cans who have now evolved into slimy creatures that can take on the form of humans.Slime? No, they were just robots with realistic looking skin.
I told y'all that the religion aspect was going to piss off somebody.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
The navigational effects were awesome. The way the ships moved reminded me of playing Descent.
The faster than light travel was realistic from the standpoint that as soon as you jump ... POOOF ... your gone.
I think we all get very attached to the things we saw in our youth. Sometimes, when you go back and watch some of that stuff again, you realize it's pretty stupid. Original Battlestar Galactica's was way to uptite about having greek names for EVERYTHING.
Criticisms of the new version:* I can appreciate trying to "bring home" the drama by not dressing the actors in polyester jumpsuits. However, I think the Pinstripe shirts some of these guys were wearing gave you the sense that these people just wandered onto the set in their street clothes.The officer uniforms from the original were better. As others have pointed out, these one's look like they came straight off of Babylon 5.
* They are using techno buzzwords like "wireless" way too much. I'd like everybody to review their original Star Trek. They had boxes/gizmos and they were effectively magic. The crew didn't describe HOW the boxes worked.I can remember watching Star Trek in the 80s and saying "Those little cassette thingies they put data on are way too unrealistic". They look nothing like a floppy disk. Well guess what, all those magic doohickies on Original Star Trek are now realities: Flip Phones(communicators), Stun Guns (phasers on stun), Pocket Computers (Tri-Corders).So please stop trying to be techno hip. It's not REAL science fiction, it's a space drama. Battlestar Galactica with techno goop (not even CORRECT techno-goop) is effectively Star Trek Voyager.
* I like the angle with Baltar. Hoever, they've effectively turned him into Dr. Smith from "Lost In Space". Coincidentally, they were also trying to find Earth.
* I don't get why the fighter bays have to "retract". This is like the Enterprise splitting in two. There is no reason for it.
* The "Model 5" hallucination to some degree is a rip off of John Crichtons "Scorpy" implant on Farscape. BTW, quit calling EVERYTHING a chip.
Good stuff
* The Cylons are creepy. They are also multi-faceted. They are somewhat emotional.
* The effects are Bab 5 effects, and they are excellent.
* The bull-Amazon Starbuck is an interesting twist. I also like how these old GOOFY names are just their pilot handles.
* Ships move more like they should.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
Canadian Television Premiere BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Part 1 - Saturday, January 17 @ 9pm ET Part 2 - Sunday, January 18 @ 9pm ET
(Toronto - December 12, 2003) The ultimate battle between man and machine begins as the long-awaited re-imagination of the cult classic, Battlestar Galactica, comes to Canada exclusively on SPACE: The Imagination Station. A tale of the human struggle to survive, the new miniseries stays true to the core of the 1978 original, but introduces some exciting new twists including the transformation of Starbuck, the tough pilot (originally portrayed by Dirk Benedict) into a female character, played by Katee Sackhoff (Halloween Resurrection). The two-part miniseries launches Saturday, January 17 @ 9pm ET and concludes Sunday, January 18 @ 9pm ET. SPACE will also air a special look at the making of the miniseries in Battlestar Galactica: Behind the Scenes, a SPACE original production on Saturday, January 17 @ 8:30pm ET.
Starring Oscar nominated actors Edward James Olmos (Blade Runner, Miami Vice) as Commander Adama and Mary McDonnell (Dances With Wolves) as Colonial President Laura Roslin, the miniseries begins as Commander Adama and the crew of the Galactica embark on plans to put the aircraft carrier in retirement. The ship has been out of commission for almost 40 years, since the end of the war between the people of the 12 Colonies of Kobol and the Cylons, the robots created by the humans.
As plans for the closing festivities for the beloved vessel get underway, a new breed of Cylons, which are virtually indistinguishable from human beings, suddenly attack and it is up to the crew of the Galactica to save the future of the human race. The lesson they soon learn is that the flaws are not in their creation, but in themselves. Also stars James Callis (Bridget Jones's Diary) as Dr. Baltar, Alberta-born model/actress Tricia Helfer as Number Six, Jamie Bamber (Band of Brothers) as Apollo, Grace Park as Boomer, and features Canadian actors Aaron Douglas, Paul Campbell and Matthew Bennett (Cold Squad).
Battlestar Galactica was shot in Vancouver, British Columbia and directed by Michael Rymer (In Too Deep, Queen of the Damned), and written and executive produced by Robert D. Moore (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Roswell).
SPACE: The Imagination Station, a division of CHUM Television, is a 24-hour-a-day English-language national Science Fiction, Science Fact, Speculation and Fantasy channel (www.spacecast.com).
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― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, that's a great name.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link
Please note the following correction: Ronald D. Moore is the writer and executive producer for Battlestar Galactica, and not Robert D. Moore. Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. Please don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions.
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link
Richard Hatch (the Apollo one) makes a "special appearance in an early episode of the new show, playing a Nelson Mandela-like figure, Peter Zarek."
I still don't know if I think this is a good thing or not.
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I have no problem with handheld at all! But the point of comparison was made to Blair Witch Project and how both apparently caused motion sickness among my compatriots at said dinner last night. Just doesn't affect me at all.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcel Gallingez (Marcel Gallingez), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I just (last week) saw Series 1. The first episode, "33", is a work of evil genius.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
(series is currently showing on sky3 (which is available to freeview viewers) much to my annoyance. still, was only the price of a cd or so and no adverts and no waiting a week between episodes is a good thing).
yes, "33" was great. cylons as The Mummy.
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
I dunno. I watched a bunch of episodes recently and it didn't seem to be as cool as it was when I first saw them in the 80s.
I watched the second half of NuBG season two over the weekend and the division of storylines was annoying - especially the CylonAngst episode set on Caprica.
― Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 10 July 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I think I heard an Internet rumour that Red Mars was in the works.
I'd like someone to have a bash at the Culture novels.
― chap, Friday, 28 May 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
I prefer The Expanse to BSG in a lot of ways, not least because it's proper hard Sci-Fi rather than a slightly half-arsed SF/mystic fantasy hybrid, but I don't think it reaches the heights of nailbiting drama BSG did at its peaks.
― chap, Friday, 28 May 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
I think Amazon started working on a Culture TV show and gave up.
― DJI, Friday, 28 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link
yeah Expanse is much more...clinical, maybe? it has a coldness and to it and isn't as interested in Big Obvious Themes or goopy love triangles xp
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 28 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link
― DJI,
Fair play to be honest, it would need an absurd budget to do properly.
― chap, Friday, 28 May 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
I tend to forget, when I'm reading Culture books, that many of the characters are weird multi-legged creatures and other things that might be tough to relate to as a television viewer.
― DJI, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
I'm guessing they would just do the typical head loaf makeup that other scifi shows do.
― DJI, Friday, 28 May 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
animate it?
― koogs, Friday, 28 May 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
That would be rad
― DJI, Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link
Sounds like it was Bank's estate that pulled the plug xpshttps://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/21402585/amazon-cancels-tv-adaptation-culture-series-iain-m-banks-consider-phlebas
― groovypanda, Saturday, 29 May 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
Got my mom started on Galactica, should I warn her about the later seasons or make it a delightful surprise?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link
delightful surprise
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
100% agree.
Maybe take a health check after the season three opening episodes, that's the jump off point before you hit the weird part of the rollercoaster.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 10:53 (two years ago) link
does she like the song "All Along the Watchtower" y or n?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
The only song I’ve ever been sure she liked was “Sussudio.”
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
the Cylons woulda given themselves away by dancing
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
Serial killer doctor episode in season 3 merits my mom's first 100% critical text re: Galactica.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 03:06 (two years ago) link