This is the thread where we talk about Roseanne.

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Also, I think they were the first tv show to regularly show people watching tv.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 August 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
So anyone got the DVD set of the first season?

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

For me, the beginning of the end was really when Roseanne and Jackie's mother came into the show full time. And I know that she's supposed to be a really good actress and she was in Bonnie and Clyde and all that, but I can't stand her. Estelle... whatever it is, I can't remember.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I always marvelled at the fact that Darlene's baby was Shelly Winters's great-great-grandson.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Stand up special on HBO tonight, Roseanne fans.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Estelle... whatever it is, I can't remember.

parsons

he said shut up (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 5 November 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Ehh...the Roseanne stand-up was kinda iffy! It's not that her material was bad, but the delivery was fucked, no real sense of comic timing, like:
"mumblemumbleYELLYELLYELLmumblemumble *awkward pause* mumblemumbleYELLYELLYELL *awkward pause* mumblemumble"

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 5 November 2006 05:55 (seventeen years ago) link

her material was oddly dated, and she felt really uncomfortable on the stage, not sure where to go with it, not sure what real meant.

a couple of years ago, there was an article about her struggle with (multiple personality/disscoative(sp)/something else) and i kept thinking that one of the more fascinating things about both the special, that article, and the last season of roseanne (and really the wasteland that was post roseanne) was that she was one of the last few who got very rich very quickly, and didnt know what to do about it.

she doesnt have that meta/postmodern sheen of artifice, that training of how to live and what to do with fame, and its really weird, to watch roseanne, and see it in a meta way, see how its in a coded way, about figuring out how to deal with issues of public/private

the scene at her father's funeral, or some of the interactions with jackie, or how much she hates arnie, in some of those episodes, or jackie going to therapy, and its not the working class versmillitude of the early episodes, but its this bizarre document on fame...

i also found it really interesting that, everyone eventually got paired off, and for the last (3?) seasons they had no idea how to handle, what to do with dj.

(you can see similar issues from the beginning, of grace under fire, with brett butler, and it disintergrates sooner, but there are episodes, maybe a dozen or so, that are the best, most real things ever on television, a hyper, broken remix of roseanne)

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

anthony, that's one of the best things i've ever seen you post.

the starbucks in the forbidden city (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link

her material was oddly dated

Yeah! It was like she wrote most of it a couple of years ago and hadn't updated it yet.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 5 November 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks!

pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Ever notice that Darlene's boyfriend looks like Dave Eggers?

It sure did get bad at the end, when they won the lottery, like they were selling out the whole point of the show to begin with.

shookout (shookout), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

the last season episodes with dj & heather matazarro are great

and what (ooo), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
The last episode almost salvaged the last season for me. Twas that good.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 14 January 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

THANK GOD THERE's a ROSEANNE THREAD!

i mean, i really can't get over the first and second seasons. just got the DVDs and i'm really, i've been transported to another place.

um...

one of the 1st comments on this thread was something about how roseanne isn't a good actress/comedian and how it's like dan's show. i couldn't disagree more! they're on equal ground. both so great. all of em. gushing, i know. the dvd menu screen is staring me in the face as i type! gg

Surmounter (rra123), Monday, 15 January 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

also i really don't know how bad it could be at the end of its run. i mean i'd have to watch some episodes but i remember seeing later ones on TV and i never felt like, oh this is so bad.


Surmounter (rra123), Monday, 15 January 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I got season two for christmas. I might have to buy the rest! Until the new Becky shows up. I don't need to own those.

gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/2007/08/my_sex_tape.php

StanM, Friday, 10 August 2007 08:03 (sixteen years ago) link

holy crap! (various posts)

http://perezhilton.com/?cat=316

StanM, Friday, 10 August 2007 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Date: Aug 9, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: i wish that perez h.
Body: would sneak onto my land here, and then i could legally shoot him. I think i could lure him with promises of free lard cookies and chubby chasing gays who would actually want to let him gag on their knobs. He didnt get that my blogs were a joke, and then he didnt get that my intern thing was a joke either. How can you be gay and that dense? He may as well be an ignorant fat hillbilly…he has all the astute appreciation of irony and humor that they do. Gay guys should turn straight out of shame that he is one of their kind.

Date: Aug 9, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: i am not rosie odonnell
Body: and tired of people thinking i am. One, I am cute, two, i like guns and I am crazy not depressed. I am glad that whoopi got the job on the view and not me after all. She is perfect for that show… and like rosie she will talk about things that have nothing to do with working people, public schools, or unions, or how both parties are irrelevant to this country’s constitution. Plus, I would not be able to stop staring at Barbara Walters’ head the whole time. It is huge. she looks like mr. burns.

Date: Aug 9, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: posh spice looks
Body: like a ghoul dressed up like a drag queen.

Fuck yeah!

marmotwolof, Friday, 10 August 2007 08:27 (sixteen years ago) link

That Perez fellow seems quite irritating.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 10 August 2007 09:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I just bought series 1 of Rosanne and it is definitely Classic.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 10 August 2007 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a mid-point that I like the best, I couldn't say which season it is but it's when Darlene goes from sorta funny to completely awesome. Then Becky 2.0 shows up and it's kind of weird after that.

marmotwolof, Friday, 10 August 2007 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

There are still many good bits from the Chalke era on, don't get me wrong, but Lecy Goranson was the truth.

marmotwolof, Friday, 10 August 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

why does it get weird with 2nd Becky? she was cute

darlene rocks

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I think every boyfriend I've ever had has had Darlene pretty high up their crush list. This is fine by me, because Darlene was totally ace.

ailsa, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

rly? that's awesome i didn't know straight boys liked darlene

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Sarah Gilbert and her gf just had their second baby earlier this week!

ENBB, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

that's awesome i didn't know straight boys liked darlene

cute, smart, and smart-assed? Oh, how little you understand straight boys. Of course we love Darlene.

kenan, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

=P

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait - Darlene was cute? She was definitely smart and smart-assed but cute?

ENBB, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, TOTALLY. Blew both Beckies out of the water. Personality goes a long way.

kenan, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

SO CUTE. but Becky 2 was hot

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoa @ the GIS for Sarah Gilbert

kenan, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Personality def goes a long way and don't get me wrong, I love me some Darlene but I just never thought she was particularly attractive.

Becky 1 was a better Becky and had the bitchy teenage girl shtick down but Sarah Chalke was definitely hotter.

ENBB, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

hotttttttttt

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

darlene just lit up the room

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

with gasoline?

kenan, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

no in that screentalk talented actress way =)

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Wiki tells me that Sarah has a new little girl named Sawyer, who is now 8 days old. Awwwwww.

kenan, Friday, 10 August 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

^^ That'a what I said upthread although I didn't know her name. That's so cute!

ENBB, Friday, 10 August 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

So, Sara Gilbert is gay? How much hotter could she get for straight boys?

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 10 August 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the most underrated white Bordeaux grapes and...oh, I thought this was the thread where we talk about Roussanne.

Eazy, Friday, 10 August 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

=/ =) o_O

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Darlene is uber-hot, no question. Sarah Chalke never did anything for me. I know she's improved a lot since then, but when she was on Roseanne, she was easily the worst actor on the show. It wasn't just that she wasn't a convincing Becky, she wasn't a convincing human. Completely wooden, and acting that bad cancels out the hotness, for me. Lecy had loads more personality, and I think that made her attractive in a weird way when she came back for most of season 8. She was really gawky before that.

marmotwolof, Friday, 10 August 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread needs a recent Sara pic. Just because.
http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/x/3/-/-/sara_gilbert.jpg

marmotwolof, Saturday, 11 August 2007 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

haha barbara walters does kinda look like mr burns
i am neutral on roseanne herself but:
the show was awesome for the first few seasons, pos my favourite show for a while there - you could really tell they were having fun doing it too - crass sure but warm and fuzzy and real (except for laff track obv)

rrrobyn, Saturday, 11 August 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

that pic reminds me of Chicago Sarah

kenan, Saturday, 11 August 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

even the laugh track seemed real, it was so funny. she looks good!

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 August 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

tho a bit wan?

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 August 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah they don't have the time or inclination to start from scratch. there might not have been scripts written but they were probably close to pre-production & planning when Roseanne was fired.

flappy bird, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

never ever heard of Dusty's Trail until now

akm, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

were there multiple Gilligan's Island spinoffs? I don't remember that title but I remember watching a spinoff (and enjoying it - Gilligan's Island rules)

flappy bird, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

the gilligan's island episode of roseanne is really bad

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 22 October 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

dusty's train does not appear to be a spinoff btw. and doesn't have other actors outside of bob denver

The Connors is more like AfterMASH.

akm, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

Or Major Crimes

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 22 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

AfterMAGA

President Keyes, Monday, 22 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

You have no fucking idea what Roseanne is going to say at the end of this video. Not a clue. Whatever you’re thinking, it’s weirder than that.

pic.twitter.com/lfzXMnrj7s

— Nick Laparra (@NickLaparra) June 27, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:21 (eleven months ago) link

sounds right

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:24 (eleven months ago) link

He has a lot of personality traits that are usually coded as feminine.

treeship., Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:25 (eleven months ago) link

and tits

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

Probably just a joke. Big wind up, unexpected absurd payoff, no elaboration. Basically a clickhole template.

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

From 2016:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/

jaymc, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

Thought this was going to be about her antisemitism.

peace, man, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

Was tempting to post that clip, but I thought better.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:06 (eleven months ago) link

If she hadn't been kicked off her namesake show, there would be so much potential for her screen character to become a Q wife and battle her TV family.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link

"Trust the plan, Dan."

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link


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