"Hipster" as pejorative.

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-- deej, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:59 PM

if you're familiar with 'buy nothing day' which is supposed to grind the capitalist consumer system to a halt, i believe they are the ones behind that

haha oh man i just decided to go look at momus's blog

We don't like how they make their great kids great

The Vice Guide to North Korea is a 14-episode account -- made at some risk to the journalists -- of a heavily-guarded journey through North Korea. I found it fascinating, but I did notice some dubious ideology creeping in, especially in Episode 12, A Schoolchildren's Palace, billed as "meeting the country's creepily over-talented future generation".

Here Shane Smith edged towards that journalistic-political cliché I call the "we don't like how they treat their women / children" school. Basically, the idea behind this move is that in any given culture, men are responsible for the ideology, and women and children are helpless victims and hostages. The implication is that, although the men are a lost cause, the women and children could be captured and brought to some other culture, where they'd be much happier.

This "much happier", in Smith's account of North Korean children, involves being a lot less motivated and talented. "One of the most fun-slash-sad times," Smith says in Episode 12, "was to see the best-of-the-best school in Pyongyang." After showing some child prodigies playing musical instruments larger than themselves, Smith decides that "it's so sad because these great kids are learning and learning for the state". But what's wrong with learning -- to exceptionally high standards -- for the state, and at the expense of the state? Are these children really to be pitied? Mightn't they be -- as well as "great kids" -- fervently ideological admirers of Kim Jong Il, believers in North Korea's superiority over South Korea, and convinced that their "creepy talents" could only have been advanced so far in the particular system they were born into?

jesus, i have my own personal issues with feeling bummed-out as what i see as a somewhat nihilstic streak which runs throughout much of "youth culture" nowadays, but talk about some absurd lazy-ass writing

#1 conversational turnoff for me these days when meeting chicks is when they start talking about 'hipsters' zzzzzzzz

happens far too often

It...does?

The half-built condos tower above us like foreboding monoliths of our yuppie futures

wow

has the writer of this article ever actually spoken with actual human beings before? also, i half-suspect that most of the quotes in the article are completely made-up

It...does?

-- Laurel, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

It .... does. yes.

“You’re not some club kid in New York in the nineties. This shit is so hipster!”

“He’s 17 and he lives for the scene!”

who honest-to-god really talks like this??

The American Apparel V-neck shirt, Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and Parliament cigarettes are symbols and icons of working or revolutionary classes that have been appropriated by hipsterdom and drained of meaning.

"I'm going back to the bar, do you want anything?"
"Yeah, get me another PBR, I've almost drained this one of all its meaning."

I don't know. Who talks about hipsters at all? I mean, like, out?

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american apparel v-necks are symbols of the 'revolutionary class'?

working or revolutionary classes
that's a damn big OR there

I don't know. Who talks about hipsters at all? I mean, like, out?

actually, i totally know people who complain about "hipsters", but i think they are just being lazy in how they encounter and conceptualize other people

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I thought V-necks were symbols of not wanting your undershirt to show.

you'd think a shirt made by a company that uses sweatshops would have more working class cache than an AA shirt

i went to a party with a friend of mine once and as soon as we entered this one girl who lived there squealed at him, "a hipster!" and just physically dragged him off to her bedroom for an hour.

Oh I'm totally lazy. It just seems like a...boring kind of thing that's been done to death, maybe? I mean I guess apart from maybe an eye-roll at the Pratt brats across the bar or something.

Laurel otm! now, rollerderby girls… I FUCKING HATE THEM!!

i think people just like to project douchebaggery onto others and "hipsters" are the easiest target nowadays, like "yuppies" were in the '80s.

rollerderby vs kickball

can't wait for the blipster bingo remix of "lookin' boy"

Yes, I'm behind the times, I just saw that kickball is a weekly thing at McCarren Pool apparently?

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yeah, don't get me wrong, i write off people all the time in lazy, prejudicial ways. i guess everybody does.

but i don't get all irate about people who (gasp) own fixed-gear bikes. i can think of, like, a million things that are actually worth getting upset over

I guess its because most people have been priced away from the yuppie-classics (eg gabbneb) so they only see hipstre yuppies in their social circles / drinking haunts.

My problems with fixed gear riders are practical not ideological. Stop riding two abreast on bike paths!

The latency period is typified by a solidifying of the habits that the child developed in the earlier stages. Whether the Oedipal conflict is successfully resolved or not, the drives of the id are not accessible to the ego during this stage of development, since they have been repressed during the phallic stage. Hence the drives are seen as dormant and hidden (latent), and the gratification the child receives is not as immediate as it was during the three previous stages. Now pleasure is mostly related to secondary process thinking. Drive energy is redirected to new activities, mainly related to schooling, hobbies and friends. Problems however might occur during this stage, and this is attributed to inadequate repression of the Oedipal conflict, or to the inability of the ego to redirect the drive energy to activities accepted by the social environment.

"Yeah, get me another PBR, I've almost drained this one of all its meaning."

looool

should use this irl

if you're familiar with 'buy nothing day' which is supposed to grind the capitalist consumer system to a halt

this is not true btw

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I think the same way the goalposts of what defines a "nerd" or "geek" had to be moved once spending all your time online kind of became the norm, at some point the whole "hipster" thing became these weird defanged accusations. OMG YOU'RE WEARING...A SHIRT! YOU'VE HEARD OF...A BAND! YOU'RE HANGING OUT IN......A BAR! FUCKIN' HIPSTER!

on the other hand, what if u want to make fun of ppl who really think that their ironic mustache is cool?

LOL.... SONGS

just dont go too far in the other direction, i mean

I am just pissed that my definition of hipster as a self-identifying term (i.e., that people who use the term are doing so to self-identify as hipsters) never caught on

nb this may be because it was wrong

end up like forksclovetofu

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do we even need some snappy term term for people who listen to shitty music and find humor in played out irony, though? just call people out for who they are in specifics.

the term is "ilxors" I think

^^ fire

some of us just think mustaches look good

also some of us dont get off on desperately trying to be smarter and more jaded than everyone else

jk i too am filled with self-loathing

if you're familiar with 'buy nothing day' which is supposed to grind the capitalist consumer system to a halt

this is not true btw

-- J0hn D., Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:27 PM

u mad?

after the nightmares I got from that indie girl comedy mustache thread i have no problem with any mustache as long as it's worn by a man