Tales From The ILX Top 100 Horror Movies Poll Discussion/Nominations Thread

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Yeah, I kind of feel like they're applicable, but that I wouldn't vote for them. For what it's worth, imdb classifies them as 'Drama, Horror, Sci-Fi' and 'Adventure, Fantasy, Horror' respectively.

emil.y, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

was kind of stunned to see Joe Dante's #2 horror film is The Devil and Daniel Webster.

Jacob's Ladder is bad.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

You know it. You know.

DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

I will shred my Jacob's Ladder DVD tonight and burn my eyes in shame.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

are any of Showtimes Masters of Horror series gonna make anyone's ballots?

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

imprint would be the only thing with a chance in my book, not sure if I'd include it in a top 50 ballot tho

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

I just found out about this series, haven't seen them yet. Kinda awesome that one is an adaptation of my favorite Berni Wrightson comic

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of them are up on youtube... including imprint. it's not for the squeamish but the last half is totally batshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C248DmRYbqU

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Was waiting for someone to bring the MoH's up. Of what I've seen, only Cigarette Burns and Pro-Life would even be in the running for me.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Had a "lol election year 2004" reaction to Homecoming when I finally got around to seeing it. Thought it was pretty meh compared to the raves it got.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

among Adrian Lyne shit, Fatal Attraction works way better than Jacob's Ladder, caveman kill-the-bitch politics or no.

and if it's big-screen Twilight Zones your after, there's M Night Shyamalan's good movie.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Only moh I even like is the fair-haired child, and only because the monster is triple a creepy

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

The Don Coscarelli one wasn't bad. THe one with the girl driving through the mountains?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

I watched that on netflix the other day. Not sure I ever need a rape scene in my movies tbh, but other than that it was alright. The more Angus Scrimm, the better, I say.

beachville, Friday, 13 April 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

should prolly indicate which incubus is nommed, 1966, 1981, or 2006

(1966 I'm assuming)

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

it was me, yes 1966.

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

Dead of Night (1974) - aka "Deathdream", "Whispers"
Deranged: Confessions of a Necrophile (1974) - aka "Deranged"

two weird and creepy horror films from the mid 70s. both written by alan ormsby and featuring some of tom savini's earliest gore effects work. dead of night is a vietnam-themed variation on "the monkey's paw", while deranged is a fairly closely based on the life and crimes of ed gein. i especially like the latter, which teeters on the borderline between black comedy and extremely grim horror like few others films i can think of.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I don't. (Draw the line on horror at Dead Ringers.) It may not be a true to type genre effort (Cronenberg's films rarely are) but the final act is macabre as fuck!

Will give this some thought before submitting my ballot. If I can talk myself into agreeing, it'll definitely be on there.

clemenza, Friday, 13 April 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

i'd be more likely to include dead ringers that a lot of other not-quite-horror thrillers & dramas. mostly for the atmosphere, constant suspense and general creepiness.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

Dead Ringers isn't even in my top 10 list of Cronenberg films

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

so 2 more dumb questions: when are the ballots due, and to whom should they be emailed?!?

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Friday, 13 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

voting hasn't opened yet. eric's extended nominations through the weekend (i think) and (i think) he said that he'd start the voting thread on monday. assume it will contain instructions whenever it does appear.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yep. Letting everyone take the chance to see Cabin in the Woods this weekend before opening voting period.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

I've got a provisional list of 27 or 28. I have realized that, as I struggle to finish watching Martin--I started last weekend, and have interrupted it with three other films--this ship has sailed for me, and I'm going to mostly vote for things I liked 30 years ago. I can't stand gore anymore, and that's just too central to much of the genre going forward from the late '60s.

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I for one have no problem with you voting for older gore-less films if that's what you like in the genre. I do think you're doing a disservice to a number of later films that bypass the gore, but at the same time, it's fairly indisputable that horror films have become more explicit as a rule.

emil.y, Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

You're right--I'm sure I've missed some stuff the past couple of decades I'd like. The older films I'll be voting for won't be entirely goreless, although by today's standards, Night of the Living Dead and Texas Chainsaw Massacre are pretty mild (though not in terms of psychological intensity, I'd argue).

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Tourneur, Whale ftw

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

I will be thrilled to see Tourneur alongside Inside alongside Dreyer alongside The Brood.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna exercise some futility here and nominate Hopital Brut despite its obscurity and the fact that the few people who've actually seen it probably wouldn't label it a horror film.

DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Is that the crazy French animation by Le Dernier Cri collective?

0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's the one.

DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I took part in a live soundtracking of it once, I remember nothing of the film as I was too busy trying to work out what to play.

Anyway, if we can have Apaches as a nomination then we can have The Finishing Line too :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJyhOEo-SY

0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Late to the upthread discussion of David Lynch, but in thinking about it it's hard for me to figure out how many of his movies I'd consider "horror" in some way. Definitely Inland Empire, which seems to be all about different varieties of fear and dread. Certainly as much a horror film as, say, Repulsion. Eraserhead is a kind of parental-horror monster movie, in the same way The Brood is (if less easily categorized as a genre work). Beyond that I think it's more slippery. There's terrifying moments in Mulholland Drive, FWWM, and Lost Highway, but I wouldn't call them "horror movies." (And wouldn't vote for Lost Highway anyway because I don't like it much.)

Anyway, I'll save slots for Inland Empire and Eraserhead on my ballot (maybe -- depends how many votes we get). Wouldn't vote for the others, but I won't argue with anyone who does. For all the ridiculousness and namecalling they often entail, I like the arguments in these polls over what counts (as comedy, or spec fic, or whatever). I prefer looser boundaries to more puritanical ones, I think it opens up the conversation.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that pretty well sums up my feelings on Lynch w/r/t this poll. Except that I would also like to nominate:

The Grandmother

Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Letting everyone take the chance to see Cabin in the Woods this weekend before opening voting period.

hoping to see it today!

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

I would nominate the Godzilla-esque Cthulu movie which probably only exists in my head but which has no good reason to not exist.

this is not that movie, but...

The Call of Cthulhu (2005)

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone seen 'A Quiet Place in the Country'? Ramdomly came across:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Quiet_Place_in_the_Country

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

I am also planning on seeing the cabin in the woods tonight.

I have a serious soft spot for that call of Cthulhu movie

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of want to see Cabin in the Woods even though it would probably fuck me up

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

it's good! go see it. scary enough, kinda gory in places, but nothing that'll scar you for life.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

Earlier today I looked over at my DVDs and noticed one on top, still shrink-wrapped. At some point in the last 6 months, I bought two-movie DVD of Frirestarter and Firestarter 2, but I have no memory of it at all.

Firestarter isn't that good, but it holds enormous sentimental value for me. I had a huge, huge crush on Drew Barrymore (???) and I also wanted to be her in that movie (and later when she became a wild child). It might make my ballot for that reason alone.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Sunday, 15 April 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

Firestarter had a pretty good soundtrack by Tangerine Dream too

Chris S, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, lots of names in it, too.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Sunday, 15 April 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

Why doesn't he just push the taxi driver to make him go to the airport instead of pushing him to make him believe he's given him a $500 bill? Makes no sense.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Sunday, 15 April 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link

easier to push someone to believe something pleasant than to do something against their will? iirc pushing ppl takes a lot out of him so it makes sense for him to take the path of least resistance.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 15 April 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

It's funny that he pushed a pay phone into giving up its quarters. Ha.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone seen 'A Quiet Place in the Country'? Ramdomly came across:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Quiet_Place_in_the_Country

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, April 14, 2012 4:37 PM (Yesterday)

lol this is on my list of 50 films to watch, along with popular classics like symptoms, killer's moon, don't go in the house, and the '81 nightmare.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, who exactly is he pushing there, ma bell?

xp

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link

ties into maximum overdrive, right? king treating inanimate mechanical devices as things with minds of a sort.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

Edward - lol, it is on youtube no subs but a cracking score from Morricone (from the excerpts).

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 April 2012 08:53 (twelve years ago) link


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