2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

Isn't she 17 points ahead in Ohio or something?

yah shes been way up everywhere 3 week out - then obama comes to town.

http://i32.tinypic.com/efwq9.jpg

then it was all abt the mo - now its abt the mo and the math.

yea this is true.

the mo and the math.

Sounds like the new Clipse album.

I'm not gonna tell Penn Jillette's joke.

Isn't she 17 points ahead in Ohio or something?

take a look at this: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/About_that_Ohio_poll.html

not that it means clinton doesn't have an edge (right now i'm sure she's still ahead), but it might suggest that the edge isn't quite as large as 17 points.

apparently some of the data in the ohio poll relies on figures that haven't really matched up to what's been happening so far in other states (esp. re: independent turnout, black support for obama, etc.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGbj_ERlJ0

official clinton ad up in wisconsin, pushing the "if-he's-so-great-why-won't-he-debate-hillary" argument

lol

the ad shows the things to come. i think we'll see the clinton camp getting a lot more negative over the next few weeks

Uh, from "Republicans for Obama":

OBAMA SAID OBAMICANS!!
Tue, 02/12/2008 - 11:56pm — SandiLincoln

Tonight, Feb 12, during his speech in Madison, Wisconsin, Obama used the word Obamicans! YOU GUYS, we are an actual demographic and we need to be so proud of ourselves and our candidate, Senator Barack Obama, because we epidomize change. Changing party's, changing our mind set, and changing our world. YOU GUYS ROCK!

OBAMA 08~We are the ones we were waiting for!

epidomize.

sounds like a bizarre sexual practice

gawd, I thought I saw Meredith Hunter in that drudge photo for a second.

OBAMICANS EPIDOMIZE!

bill clinton, the big pimp lobster of hope

loooooool

OBAMICANS EPIDOMIZE!

-- jhøshea, Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:25 PM

sounds like something you'd command a giant robot to do

if-he's-so-great-why-has-he-only-debated-hillary-like-18-times?

Sorry I Epidomized Your Son

yah thats pretty much waht i was thinking hoos

Honey, I Epidomized the Kids

gawd, I thought I saw Meredith Hunter in that drudge photo for a second.

Why are we fighting?! Why are we fighting?! Come on!

http://bp3.blogger.com/_6UzdmF8O-Oo/R7CORHtxSZI/AAAAAAAAGZU/v0IAHZIybFI/s1600-h/IMG_8773.jpg

same girl, same jacket, in a less sucessful combo imho

http://bp3.blogger.com/_6UzdmF8O-Oo/R7CORHtxSZI/AAAAAAAAGZU/v0IAHZIybFI/s1600-h/IMG_8773.jpg

worng thread homie

haha oops

favorite drudge headline of the morning:

MSNBC's Matthews: Obama Speech Caused 'Thrill Going Up My Leg'... 

Obama's new campaign song: "Panama"

team clinton adjusts its threatened 'no-debates' stance re: NBC, agrees (again) to the ohio debate:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/breaking_hillary_campaign_agre.php

seriously?! xpost

No, goodness. Just a little joke about Chris Matthew watching Obama speak... ease the seat back... AIN'T NO STOPPIN' NOOOOOOWWWWW

God, I so wish!

MoDowd:

It’s not yet clear which prejudice will infect the presidential contest more — misogyny or racism.

(...)

As a possible first Madame President, Hillary is a flawed science experiment because you can’t take Bill out of the equation. Her story is wrapped up in her marriage, and her marriage is wrapped up in a series of unappetizing compromises, arrangements and dependencies.

Instead of carving out a separate identity for herself, she has become more entwined with Bill. She is running bolstered by his record and his muscle. She touts her experience as first lady, even though her judgment during those years on issue after issue was poor. She says she’s learned from her mistakes, but that’s not a compelling pitch.

(...)

If Hillary fails, it will be her failure, not ours.

CMON, PENN JILLETTE JOKE

Meanwhile, Erica Jong sees a vast patriarchal conspiracy:

Unfortunately the Hillary-Haters are in charge. They monopolize the networks, the newspapers, the talk shows -- both radio and TV. They are crossing their legs for fear of castration. They are wearing the body armor our troops never got. Or got too late to matter. They are determined that a woman will not prove herself competent as Commander in Chief.

What's their ammunition? Oh, it's simple. They call her Mrs. Clinton, not Ms. or Senator. They pull out those nutcrackers in the shape of her supposed thighs. They complain about her ankles -- too thick. They complain on Fox TV that "White women are the problem" -- (idiot boy Kristol, the brain-damaged scion of Irving who rose through nepotism like our unelected "president"). Then they say she has "baggage" -- which could mean wrinkles, or her husband, or her daughter Chelsea whom they say she is "pimping." Then they say she never divorced Bill -- as if it's anyone's business. Then they moon over Obama's rhetorical style. Then they make it appear that she's a drone or a worker bee and has no royal jelly. Or else she has royal jelly and is queen bee. And that's her problem.

all the Times columnists have been pretty shitty lately imo ... Rich, Dowd, Krug

entire letters column today was given over to the reaction to Krugman's "Hate Springs Eternal" (obama is a cult leader, they're destroying the dem party w/ their anti-Hils venom, omg his health plan blah blah). dude is kind of being a huge baby. they only printed one letter that agreed with him.

xp, OK, I was curious, Morbs:

http://crackle.com/c/Penn_Says/Penn_Says_Hillary_Clinton_Joke_Predicts_the_Future/2180807#ml=fc%3d52%26fp%3d1%26fx%3d

for those who dont want to sick though penn blathering:

hillary is complaining that unfair all these primaries being held during black history month when theres no white bitch history month.

i should get a pulitzer for that post

no, ppl should just post the fun parts of Dowd columns

"fun"

dood wtf Erica - we should call her Ms. Clinton!? People call her Senator Clinton all the time!

okay what is this Jillette joke (he's a jerk and I don't have sound at work so someone gimme the gist)

oh nevermind

x-post!

yeah, and his schpiel is that when he did that joke in his act, he was worried that people would boo and get offended and whatnot, but they went nuts laughing and applauding and gleefully venting their hate, and he was shocked. And he learned from this that she doesn't stand a chance.

august is white bitch history month

Ex-President Clinton's '92 national campaign manager is reportedly lined up to endorse Obama.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/11495/thumbs/r-OBAMATARGET-large.jpg

THERE IS NO ESCAPE

On a conference call with reporters just now, Hillary pollster Mark Penn unveiled the campaign's new message: Hillary, he said, is in the "21st Century solutions business," while Obama is in the "problems business."

haha omg what a steaming load of shit