Roger namechecks Leary as "Thanks Mr. Leary but I find your product to be lacking" but I really think he was just being urbane and facetious. That was DEFINITELY not Leary they were tripping with.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
i'm xposting like crazy today
A note:
(By the by, the host was not supposed to be LSD pioneer Dr. Timothy Leary, despite Roger's joke; his character's name is credited as Sandy Orcutt, which is an anagram for "Candy Tutors," whatever that means.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oh okay that makes more sense. xp
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Handjob Peggy (comes with everything you see here) was less to me about her feeling bad and more to me about her wanting to be desired and in control of the situation.
otm, i saw it as her wanting to show dominance SOMEHOW, since it had been denied her during the pitch meeting.
― supreme sundae (reddening), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Oops! I was cleaning & watching so I didn't get Roger's Leary joke :(
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
otm, i saw it as her wanting to show dominance
yeah this is how I read it. lion imagery kinda the giveaway here.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
i lolled at blunted Peggy's born free trip
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
nobody's mentioned this yet but Ginberg's Holocaust-orphan story was o_0
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
monologue rather
Yeah wasn't sure what to take from that
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it was. In a normal week, that probably would've been the standout moment, but this week I'd forgotten about it already.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Also why do people no longer give handjobs to strangers in movie theaters?
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
I was wondering how historically accurate this was -- I was under the impression that babies born in the camps were mostly killed at birth.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
A few probably got through for various reasons.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
the impact of ginsberg's story was deadened a bit because I was half-convinced peggy was dreaming during it. she was high and doing crazy shit, she fell asleep and woke up to don's enigmatic phone call, ginsberg talks about being a martian in a scene shot entirely in reflection...I was too incredulous to believe it was really happening until the nonlinear structure of the episode became apparent.
― supreme sundae (reddening), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah and the way the monologue shifted from jokey sarcasm to earnest confessional was almost imperceptible, really well done
think this is probably true - or a late arriving prisoner was pregnant and didn't deliver til after the camps were liberated or something...? I can think of a few scenarios where this would have happened. but I guess it remains to be seen how true this backstory is.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
here's an example
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.aish.com/ho/p/48952026.html
On Dec. 21 Bein felt labour pains. She climbed to the top bunk in her barrack, and there, aided by two other inmates, gave birth in secret to a baby girl. The infant was tiny, weighing only one kilogram; she was too weak to cry but strong enough to drink the meagre offering from her mother's breast, and somehow survived the next few weeks in hiding.
The only other infant survivor, according to Auschwitz museum records, was a Hungarian boy, Gyorgy Faludi, born the day of liberation with the help of a Russian doctor. Soviet Red Army troops liberated the camp on Jan. 27, 1945. Baby and mother were among the survivors, and they were an unusual sight -- indeed, almost unique.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ginsberg didn't specify which camp he was born at did he...?
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
not at all, just providing another story
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
WOW. Fucking AWESOME episode.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Also, bravo on the LSD scenes. I hate hate hate when shows do drug scenes, they are always full of bad show-offy lousy visual effects and this was just so perfect, like that bit with the cigarette.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
you knew someone was gonna take acid at some point (Peggy? Sally?) and there were a million things that could have gone wrong with it but they REALLY delivered with Roger
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
sound editing was bonkers - the cross-mixing of Pet Sounds with Mel Torme (I think it was?), the baseball stuff, the split-conversations
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I think it was a good choice to convey the trip mostly w/ sound instead of visuals
megan was great in the scene w. the orange sherbet
― dmr, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
ginsburg may have been lying as well, who knows.
― akm, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
AV Club also seems confused on the Leary tip, but I really don't understand how anyone can not think it's just a joke. Like if you were at Kentucky Fried Chicken and you were all "This chicken leaves something to be desired, Col. Sanders" it doesn't mean you are having lunch with Col. Sanders. Jeez.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
that dude didn't look anything like Leary. And this is what, summer of '66? Leary was already pretty big by that point - being targeted by the feds, conducting televised debates etc. I don't think he was doing NY dinner parties.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It always surprised me how people will take a sarcastic comment in a fictional work as literal, but they would never take it that way if someone said it in real life.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
well real life provides more context, no?
but yeah you'd have to be a bit tone deaf to miss roger's joke.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
loved Roger's note btw
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
PLEASE HELP ME
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
loved the cigarette - i have literally had that happen in, er... similar circumstances.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
i can't remember what happened with the cigarette
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
He smoked the whole thing down with his first drag.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
to the sound of an accordion squeeze
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
heh. i'm sure a gif will be along any minute now.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that was otm and awesome.
I'm mainly glad it was suddenly all fish-eye lenses and extreme close-ups and trailing effects. It still is a bit stylized but it's all maintained in the Mad Men world and I love the fun Roger seems to be having with it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
it was wasn't
there was a lot in the episode that was really stylized. the Don & Megan driving scenes (and especially the later scene of Don driving alone) had this saturated cartoony look on the scenery going by.
― dmr, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
kind of "fake looking" but in a really specific sixties-movie way
yeah, when megan rolled down the window, i thought, "why bother? your car isn't moving."
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
my wife said she was hoping Megan was going to fall out of the car o_0
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
that's odd. why she hate a megan?
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
I find her to be a frustrating character tbh
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda hate her too tbh
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
i felt for her in this ep. like when she was trying to order pie and don was all "WE'LL HAVE ORANGE SHERBET." don's so used to "ordering for" a woman; god forbid she should want something for herself.
― tits or kitfo (get bent), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
weird. what's the objection? dullness? she seems nice enough.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
that was to xps
and yeah, don was being a complete ass, all through this episode. bossing her around, ignoring or ridiculing her feelings, abandoning her cuz she wouldn't get with his program, kicking in the door, physically assaulting her.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link