ginsburg may have been lying as well, who knows.
― akm, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
AV Club also seems confused on the Leary tip, but I really don't understand how anyone can not think it's just a joke. Like if you were at Kentucky Fried Chicken and you were all "This chicken leaves something to be desired, Col. Sanders" it doesn't mean you are having lunch with Col. Sanders. Jeez.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
that dude didn't look anything like Leary. And this is what, summer of '66? Leary was already pretty big by that point - being targeted by the feds, conducting televised debates etc. I don't think he was doing NY dinner parties.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It always surprised me how people will take a sarcastic comment in a fictional work as literal, but they would never take it that way if someone said it in real life.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
well real life provides more context, no?
but yeah you'd have to be a bit tone deaf to miss roger's joke.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 23 April 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
loved Roger's note btw
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
PLEASE HELP ME
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
loved the cigarette - i have literally had that happen in, er... similar circumstances.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
i can't remember what happened with the cigarette
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
He smoked the whole thing down with his first drag.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
to the sound of an accordion squeeze
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
heh. i'm sure a gif will be along any minute now.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that was otm and awesome.
I'm mainly glad it was suddenly all fish-eye lenses and extreme close-ups and trailing effects. It still is a bit stylized but it's all maintained in the Mad Men world and I love the fun Roger seems to be having with it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
it was wasn't
there was a lot in the episode that was really stylized. the Don & Megan driving scenes (and especially the later scene of Don driving alone) had this saturated cartoony look on the scenery going by.
― dmr, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
kind of "fake looking" but in a really specific sixties-movie way
yeah, when megan rolled down the window, i thought, "why bother? your car isn't moving."
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
my wife said she was hoping Megan was going to fall out of the car o_0
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
that's odd. why she hate a megan?
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
I find her to be a frustrating character tbh
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda hate her too tbh
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
i felt for her in this ep. like when she was trying to order pie and don was all "WE'LL HAVE ORANGE SHERBET." don's so used to "ordering for" a woman; god forbid she should want something for herself.
― tits or kitfo (get bent), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
weird. what's the objection? dullness? she seems nice enough.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
that was to xps
and yeah, don was being a complete ass, all through this episode. bossing her around, ignoring or ridiculing her feelings, abandoning her cuz she wouldn't get with his program, kicking in the door, physically assaulting her.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno I have a kneejerk resentment against anybody who gets everything they want because of how they look. especially when I find it actively unpleasant to look at her lol
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
She's stuck between modern woman and cardboard cutout. Character was never properly developed as far as i can see.
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
like, she's just a dimbulb who married her boss. I agree that Don treated her like shit in this episode and her reactions were very humanizing (and funny, eg the sherbet) but yeah I just don't like her.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think she's that dim of a bulb. My biggest gripe was wondering how she was dealing with the obvious preferential treatment at work, so I'm glad it was addressed that she feels like it's not taken seriously by Don and presumably other people. Her reaction to Harry's salacious remarks in the first ep was pretty great.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe if you want autonomy don't marry your boss?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
she hasn't been shown doing anything particularly remarkable work-wise, and she's been pretty dumb re: social situations as I noted upthread. jury's out imho. I don't think Don married her for intellect.
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno how much she knows about the dark details of don's past (I suspect lots?) but if she does know enough, that "mother" crack was really really horribly vicious.
― s.clover, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
seemed pretty clear she knew she'd gone over the line there
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
one more instance of her saying the wrong thing at the wrong time
I really like Megan and think she adds tons to the dynamic of the show. You guys are nuts.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed, this criticism seems completely wackadoo.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
eh, vicious sure, but 100% justified imo. again, don was being a complete prick, deserved whatever she could (verbally) dish out.
and i don't know why anyone would think megan has to justify herself in the first place. so, she's pretty. not her fault, and don skates on his looks as much as anyone. so, she married the boss. no more her fault than his, people fall in love at work all the time. i think she seems like a pretty decent person, overall. not perfect, perhaps a bit naive, but not distinctly stupid or frequently cruel. she seems to take a lot more abuse than she dishes out.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
She's definitely naive, and thrown to some extent by the cynicism of her co-workers. Partly this comes from the end of that Honeymoon period, where its all fresh and new and now Don is falling back into his self-expected role as Man. Don is a total jerk, but he doesn't realise it half the time, because he doesn't consider her as much as he obviously should.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I liked that it was BERT of all people who called him out (for slipping at work, natch).
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Cooper was great in this episode
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
they probably just wanted to remind us that he was still in the game (he kind of MADE the game, no?) despite spending lots of time reading the newspaper in the waiting room.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
i sort of suspect that at some point there'll be a season premiere where bert's portrait is hanging on the wall of that waiting room and we'll be like o_O.
was also glad that this episode didn't end with someone successfully selling beans
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
looking forward to Ginsberg's Nazi-themed Heinz campaign tho
i feel like the beans thing will never happen.
― tits or kitfo (get bent), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
but if it does, they should get the human beinz to do the music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Beinz
or these guys:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujgM8elOeZE
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PEGGY-HJ.gif
― Grimy Little Pimp (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
oh dear
― tits or kitfo (get bent), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
thank you, no
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yd8m19ZU1qgj9zpo1_400.gif
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link