she managed to avoid being hit from point-blank range by hawkete about ten times at the start, i wasn't too sure about that tbh...
i figured that mind-controlled hawkeye wasn't quite as good a shot as real hawkeye
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
like, his (suppressed) conscience was fucking with his aim
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
xp - I agree entirely provided that Hudlin is a typo for Priest.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
please please please make Dr. Strange/Clooney vehicle happen
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
cosine
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
I'm all for a Clooney version of Strange, especially if they can get footage from ER to use in flashbacks.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
A Doctor Strange movie would be neat, but I can't see how you could do it psychedelic justice considering the rather conservative aesthetic approach of the Marvel Movie U (i.e. Thor shoulda looked a lot cooler).
― I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
Thor = the movie, not the character.
― I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
eh Thor's pretty smashy-smashy, even in the Kirby era, never really thought of him as explicitly psychedelic. at least, not the way Dr. Strange is.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
but a Dr. Strange movie could accomodate a fair amount of post-Harry Potter/Tim Burton/proto-goth/vampire silliness
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
That would be an actual crime.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
There was this one extra in the movie that kept popping up, too, at the end. First you see her in the coffee shop through a window looking scared. Several minutes later you see her being loaded onto an ambulance or evacuated or something. Then during the news scroll at the end she gets a few lines, saying she was forever grateful to Captain America or something like that. Maybe she's Whedon's niece?
Cool to hear Maria Hill is a real character. Hope she turns up later. I don't watch those shows she's on, so I was just struck by this model dropped into the SHIELD milieu. Not that there are a lot of ugly female superheroes ...
I would love a Dr. Strange movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
I just meant that occult/magic stuff has a lot more cultural currency at the moment, and a Dr. Strange vehicle could take advantage of that. Not that it would be good as a sub-Twilight campyfest.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Loved the way Stark tried to recruit Banner to work for him. Most realistic moment in the movie.
― hot slag (lukas), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't really word my initial post well, sorry
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It may be telling that my ideal Thor movie involves Ego, The Living Planet. Let's hope that's the sequel.
― I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol would totally watch that YES
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
they already did an inhumans storyline with FF, right?
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
more of this please, Marvel Entertainment
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tW3g8zCM6c0/StEhemj_e2I/AAAAAAAAAVQ/F-KC75gyIn0/s320/ego+spread.jpg
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
tiny pic not really doin it just there :(
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
What seems to be a (minimal) gamble on the part of this movie and to an extent even Thor is opening up the layman Marvel universe, for lack of a better term - the superheroes swinging and fighting it out in cities - to the greater, nerdier Marvel universe, which includes countless metaphysical journeys, intergalactic wars, neo-theology and the like. I wonder how many fans of this movie know who Thanos is?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
the use of Thanos makes me genuinely sad. The story behind the character's creation is so cynical. as a Kirby partisan it just seems like yet another in an endless series of indignities
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
well, i like starlin but i do agree with you in principle
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
As shitty as the Kirby/Avengers situation is (pretty goddamn shitty), it's fair to consider Thanos' creation, at least in its original context of Starlin just having fun, as commentary and not so much exploitation/stealing.
― I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
I like Starlin too!
not as much as the New Gods tho. Starlin is like the Bee Gees to Kirby's Beatles.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
no argument there. But i think baez is right on and starlin is head and shoulders above someone who is just openly looting the kirby vaults... say, byrne for instance.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
can someone give me a brief summary of what you're talking about here? i take it from upthread that thanos is an imitation of a dc character?
― goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Meryl Streep as Thanos.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
thanos, a godlike interstellar khan character created by jim starlin, is an imitator both in character and look to the earlier, kirby-created darkseid.
Darkseid is DC. Thanos is Marvel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Thanos is an homage/ripoff of Kirby's character Darkseid from Kirby's Fourth World/New Gods cycle, which was one of the first things he created after his incredibly bitter departure from Marvel at the end of the 60s
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
it is interesting how little interest the marvel superhero franchises have had in the psychedelic/cosmic stuff that was once their bread & butter. thor flirted with it, but toned things down quite a bit. suppose that makes sense. mind-bending pop weirdness doesn't sell anywhere near as well as "realistic" action. i wanted a lot more psychedelic imagination out of the LOTR films, too. orange skies, purple trees, impossible structures and anatomies.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
the thing you need to know: both thanos and darkseid are, effectively, gods that fight superheroes and worship death
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
blue skin, living planet, mind-melding
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
The FF movies came with the Marvel logo, but they weren't Marvel Studios. Marvel Studios movies, I imagine, will stick very much with the flattened out reality of the Avengers-related movies - you won't see any extreme stylization; I can't imagine that Raimi's charming little exclamation marks in the first set of Spider-Man movies (the way he'd cut at a particular moment as someone's screaming at the screen) would be allowed today.
― I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
seems like they were inevitably headed in that direction with the FF movies (you can't have the Silver Surfer without Galactus, really) but that franchise is obviously dead now― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:42 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:42 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
They had Galactus. He was a Warren Ellis-style cloud thingy
― Number None, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
speaking of thanos/darkseid, i thought loki's 'i will liberate u by making u a slave' thing seemed like a pretty blatant anti-life equation ripoff?
― Mordy, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
more nod than ripoff, but yeah
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
man it feels like ppl have been trying to make a doctor strange movie for forever
famous monsters of filmland used to print a list of movies in development in every issue, I remember seeing doctor strange on there back in the late 70s/early 80s
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
or maybe it was just this?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077469/
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFCL0eCjnsA
yeah, it cracks me up when places like the new yorker refer to spider man / xmen as the first marvel movies.we've been here before but with less at stake.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Was "X-Men" the first good Marvel movie?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
"Blade" or "Blade 2?"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
How quickly we forget Howard The Duck.
Blade was two years before X-Men, if that rocks your boat (it does mine)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Blade II was 2 years after, same year as Spiderman.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
. i wanted a lot more psychedelic imagination out of the LOTR films, too. orange skies, purple trees, impossible structures and anatomies.
I would see the SHIT out of this movie. Can't wait for Avengers, but yeah, I'm pretty sick of 'gritty' 'realistic'. One of the reasons I prefer 60s Batman to any of the modern ones.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
ah, whoops yes, the new yorker used howard as a referent.but that's not right!
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
Howard the Duck is AWESOME btw. Gets so much crap from people tho.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
a "psychedelic" LOTR wouldn't have much to do with the source material though
― Number None, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link