also i thought this episode did a very good job of making sadsack boyfriend really sympathetic and then, when he's bargaining with marnie during the sex scene, kind of repulsive, so that as a viewer you're kind of aligned with marnie when she's like ugh, i want to break up.
xp i liked the lipstick color, it was the white powder on her face that bugged me.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
GIRLS talk (wrong color, overdone, smelled of artifice) 10000 new answers
― blossom smulch (schlump), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah man marnie and charlie had the worst relationship, they are both way better off out of that nonsense, i hope this doesnt mean the end of his jerky pal as a character though, that guy makes me laugh
― max, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that guy is hilarious and such an effortless asshole--i always wonder if he improvised some of his dialogue in tiny furniture and in girls.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Effortless asshole is a great description. He's not even overcompensating or anything, he's just a dick, albeit a funny one.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
he owns like 0 shirts as far as I can tell
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
oh i didn't mean shirtless dude, i meant sadsack boyfriend's jerky friend
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
Ray
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
Come on the characters have goddamn names
i don't know the names of any character on any hbo show except for karl pilkington
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
veep/game of thrones/treme/boardwalk empire/girls = total blank on anyone's nameexcept zao zosa zim zangafin or whatever the evil dude with the 13 is named.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
I know the girls names; the guys get a little murky
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
so I've only seen the first episode, are we saying that shirtless dude remains shirtless throughout all subsequent episodes?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Yes.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
Lena Dunham ... Hannah Horvath (10 episodes, 2012)
Allison Williams ... Marnie Michaels (10 episodes, 2012)
Jemima Kirke ... Jessa Johansson (9 episodes, 2012)
Zosia Mamet ... Shoshanna Shapiro (9 episodes, 2012)
Adam Driver ... Adam Sackler (9 episodes, 2012)
Christopher Abbott ... Charlie (5 episodes, 2012) Alex Karpovsky ... Ray Ploshansky (5 episodes, 2012)
James LeGros ... Jeff Lavoyt (3 episodes, 2012)
Kathryn Hahn ... Katherine Lavoyt (2 episodes, 2012) Julian Osti ... Julian (2 episodes, 2012)
Clare Foley ... Lola Lavoyt (2 episodes, 2012) Mackenzie Grey ... Beatrix Lavoyt (2 episodes, 2012)
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
useful
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
but plz add brief character synopsis
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
That is spelling bottle episode to me.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
Marnie is astonishingly beautiful even though there's some definite dad-resemblance.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
the seinfeld/costanza comparison is otm. these characters are supposed to be funny above all else, and sympathetic to some degree, but i don't think that likeability is at all the point. schadenfreude is the operating principle. were supposed to laugh when they do dumb things, laugh when bad things happen to them as a consequence, and wince when it all becomes too humiliating to bear.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
were = we're
NYT profile from over a year ago about adam driver, who plays hannah's gross dude (he's a stage actor who's been in 'angels of america' and an ex-marine who started an arts nonprofit for military personnel)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/theater/22driver.html?_r=1
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I LOVE this guy. I thought he looked really familiar but I looked him up on IMDB and it seemed like he'd only been in Tiny Furniture which I still haven't seen so I decided he reminds me of an irl person but I can't work out who.
I still really like this show and don't hate any of the characters tbh. Haven't seen this week's ep yet so maybe that'll change.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/07/loves-lena-dunham/
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
why can't the nyrb just review books
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting article. Thanks.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
he's v good in beeswax, which is great you should check it out
― blossom smulch (schlump), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
“[Adam Driver] has something of an old-school strong dude’s body,” said Ms. Dunham, whose show begins filming in New York in the spring. “He doesn’t look like a wimp, which in this day and age is who most 27-year-old guys are palling around with: men wearing very small pants.”
Underestimating how much strength required to squeeze into very small parts.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
pants hah
idk, I feel like by 27 a lot of dudes are no longer in small-pants but this might be a lifestyle/regional thing
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
Look for NYTimes Magazine expose on this 27 yo dudes in small-pants phenom.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
I think they already had a decade worth of that shit
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
he doesn't look like an old-school strong dude. he looks like a twink
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
I beg to differ based on my knowledge from friends of who qualifies for that
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
he doesn't look like an old-school strong dude. he looks like a twink --Kiarostami bag (milo z)
Compared to the small-pantsers he's a regular circus strongman.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
ffs, he looks like a type of guy that exists
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
he's a hologram
― Moodles, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
kind of hilarious to me that of the three dudes who have had the most screentime, two seem to be preoccupied with building things. lol handcrafted artisan ny
― mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
although Adam just seems to take his shirt off and put things in a vice, I haven't seen anything that looks obviously *made* by him yet, lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
i dont dislike any of the characters, they are all funny & good
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its like 'disliking' george costanza or something
deej v otm.
shoshanna being stuck in the room w/the sexing was HILARIOUS.
― It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
I loved that so much
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
rip new york review of books
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
feel like that article could have saved 500 words by just saying come
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
How often, in movies or television, do you see autoeroticism incorporated into a scene of two people having sex?
Yeah, really, there should be some place where we can see dudes jerking off onto women after sex. At the least, it'd be a good addition to porn. Hey wait a minute ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:55 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure it happens more often than implied
― mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
this piece on women & sex & owning it openly - http://jezebel.com/5911023/rihanna-does-whatever-she-wants-with-her-vagina-and-for-some-reason-thats-a-problem - made me think of this thread
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
"But more importantly, Rihanna is very famous, kind of bonkers, and completely unfiltered. She behaves exactly like any average 24-year-old does (plus a million billion dollars)"
the thing is that the "characters" on Girls are more like people than most tv or movie characters, so much so that even a mention of "that didn't seem in character for her" is kind of hilarious to me because much of this show (all of this show?) is about how young people figure out and play with who they are as people - which funnily enough kind of involves trying on many different "characters"
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
jezebel article otm
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
Hannah propositioning her boss didn't seem that weird to me. Jessa told her she should do it for the story and, as a writer, she was probably figuring why the hell not? That's the sort of thing you think/do at 24 especially when a glamorous, cool, foreign chick who you probably sorta emulate just a little tells you it's a good idea.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
got thru first ten minutes of the newest ep and was just too bored to continue. rip zeitgeist
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link