i don't think Italy was any kind of perfect trip either. i don't recall the specifics at all - but it *had* seemed like a perfect few days and then Betty (i think durring or after diner) makes some snooty/sulky comment (i think maybe because she had to go back to her horrible life or somesuch) and Don is just sitting there flabbergasted that Betty is still pulling that kind of behaviour then and there. i really wish i could remember this better!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
Don gave her a charm, once they were back home, to remember Italy by and that is when she threw a fit.
― *tera, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
right. thank you.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
i was semi-correct then.
iirc she threw a fit cuz she knew he'd given a similar charm to one of his g/f or something...?
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
Now I want to go back and rewatch everything.
― Jaq, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha - i think i may have to!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
is the whole bobby draper thing like a conscious brechtian device? i swear they pointedly get a new actor to play that kid every damn episode.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:20 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
last one left cause he got another job. probably hard to hold onto a kid for a part with no significant lines.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
"iirc she threw a fit cuz she knew he'd given a similar charm to one of his g/f or something...?"
I don't think this is right.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
I thought there was something about it signifying his cheating (like he had bought her gifts after being caught cheating on her before...?) I can't remember honestly
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
I couldn't remember either so I googled for a recap: where Don is clearly still under the romantic spell from the trip, and Betty just as clearly is not, so when he asks what's wrong, she gives it to him: "I hate this place. I hate our friends, I hate this town." Dangling London in front of her is looking like a mistake in retrospect. And how ironic is it that now that Don really can't run away, Betty's the one feeling like she wants to? Don says the wrong thing, saying they'll go away again, and then asks her to look on her pillow. She obliges him, and finds a gold charm, which he says he'll have put on her bracelet. She nods sadly: "Then you can have something to look at, when I tell the story about the time we went to Rome." She heads into the bathroom, leaving him confused, and "There's A Small Hotel" appropriately kicks up as we go to credits.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
i dont know how anyone remembers what the non-sally kids look like
― man down (D-40), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
I think bobby keeps getting younger. Benjamin Buttons style.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
bobby is the real don draper's dad, out for revenge.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if mad men is the most recapped show in the history of tv
― High powered Texas lawyer (symsymsym), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe you missed Lost?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
Italy episode is one of my favorites-- its the last time we see Don and Betty happy together before the marriage eventually unravels iirc.
― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
and yeah i think the whole trip/charm bracelet thing is Betty realizing vacation/escape isn't good enough, she needs an entirely different life in order to be happy, and that's impossible, which is still playing out with Henry etc
― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they're like the dream versions of themselves in that episode. he's Cary Grant, she's Grace Kelly...it's a good one.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
otm.
i love it when i go on vacation and feel like a dream version of myself!!
― ♆ (gr8080), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
I watched the Actors Studio thing last night. The thing I hate most about that show when they have entire casts on is that nothing of any substance ever happens. The teen goth photos of Christina Hendricks were cute, though.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
oh god I cant
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes when they play "day-o" in an arena I feel like the nba is winking at ilh
― Clay, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol wrong thread
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
*winks at mad men* ;)
― Clay, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
The teen goth photos of Christina Hendricks
wot
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 May 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzrxlunAMx1qztmmho1_500.jpg
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 May 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
@}-,-`-
― goole, Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
last one left cause he got another job.
I read one profile that suggested some of the Bobbys have found working with January Jones upsetting and wanted to stop doing it
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 19 May 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Finally watched the last episode and really didn't like how Megan interacted with her friend.
I also don't get why Megan in jealous of Betty. Is she? I can see why Betty is jealous of Megan.
Sally was great in this episode!
― *tera, Saturday, 19 May 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
I felt the scene w/Megan and her friend was there to illustrate an unforseen (by her) problem about her new career path: is she hungry enough to compete w/her dues paying peers, or will her irl comfort fatally handicap her?
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 May 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, there megan seemed dismissively snobby for the first time
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Saturday, 19 May 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
or maybe she's just very serious about her art
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Saturday, 19 May 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
I felt bad for Megan there
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know if she's jealous of her, except maybe to the extent that Betty still has a claim on Don's attention, affection, and loyalty. But she's certainly suspicious of her, and she's right to be.
― trishyb, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think Don's "Betty's fat nose" comment (and the Anna--Sally thing) prove much of his goodwill towards Betts is now gone.
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I love that Sally has worked out that she can finally get her own back on Betty without getting herself into any trouble.
― trishyb, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
I never thought Betty had much of Don's loyalty or affection unless she was about to die.
― *tera, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
otoh it's kind of sad that she's basically learned how to do this from Betty herself.
That "Are you gonna make yourself cry?" bit with Megan was pretty spot-on Betty, too (amazing how well Kiernan Shipka channels January Jones in those moments).
― Roz, Sunday, 20 May 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
like Megan's little condescending note to Betty when she found her in the house. What was it? Something like "You've seen everything" or "You've seen enough" or something.― dan selzer, Tuesday, May 15, 2012
I took this as "well you're never going to see the bedroom"
― bailiwick bill (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 20 May 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
iirc it was "I think you've seen all of it."
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 May 2012 06:42 (twelve years ago) link
They're like the anti-Gilmore Girls.
― trishyb, Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:45 (twelve years ago) link
"like Megan's little condescending note to Betty when she found her in the house."
She let herself in and was clearing snooping around to satisfy her curiosity! I think a little condescension is appropriate.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it was an innocuous 'there really isn't much to see' comment about the apt (which in itself might be about megan's insecurity about don's wealth) w/ a heavy undertone of 'go fuck yrself bitch'.
― balls, Sunday, 20 May 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
Had she given Betty the full tour, would have made Betty explode with rage later.
― *tera, Sunday, 20 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck is happening w lane
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
this is one of my favorite episodes of the season. the krishnas. don's face during the play. lane's conniving.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
roger's amazing shirt.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
joan blowing her top. "there's an airplane here to see you. surprise." it just keeps getting better.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Harry actually being a stand-up guy. The wonders of this episode never cease.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link