calling all ilxor librarians!

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You don't need books. Everything is on the internet.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

when i worked in a bookstore we had these things we called "v-carts" which were somewhat like your end- and side-views except they were tipped over and had wheels. my google-fu is failing me, though, so i cannot link you to one.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 28 December 2003 07:20 (twenty years ago) link

I'll have a look in the library supplies catalogue when I go back to work, can you wait 'til the 5th of Jan?

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 December 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

Our book trolleys are composed of numerous [things wot mark s is describing] which fit onto a central wheeled device (three on each side), tilted slightly from |_ to V kind of.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 December 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
REVIVE!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Do you think you're going to get a new flood of helpful responses?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

I trust jel to keep his promises!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

so yes!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

Due to the terrifically dull nature of my job, I get to know lots about suppliers of all sorts of arcane crap. There's a company called Gresswell that who specialize in library supplies. They do something that looks like this:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D60/000001600.jpg

You could also try Librex, but they don't have an online catalogue you can look at.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

NickB ur a god, that is exactly what I want!! Proof = look, it is ALREADY FULL OF MOOMINTROLL BOOKS!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Your enthusiasm has made me want one too!

marianna, Monday, 12 January 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

"Table-top book racks" all round then.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

"Trentwood Book Trough" for wood-ophiles:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D55/000001550.jpg

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

blimey the book at the end THERE is JACK by A.M.Homes who i also love!! this is the best niche-marketing exercise in history!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

NickB are you at this very minute burgling my flat by the magic of book hods, and merrily posting pix of yr swag as it leaves?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

Got any Agaton Sax? If so, I soon will be...

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

Heh. My new Gresswell catalogue arrived this morning.

Wait... suss3x.ac.uk. Do you work in the Suss3x library Nick?

Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, hi there! Yep, I'm at sussex, but in i.t., not in the library. Yourself?

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

crikey, there'll be an I Love Brighton board at this rate.....

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Haha. I'm in the Language Learning Centre.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

Just a short walk away from the best coffee on campus then. Nice one! ;o)

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

Awwww!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, I looked in the new Gresswell's catalogue on Friday, I was looking for something on wheels, dunno why I coulda sworn Mark mentioned a V-shaped trolley, but I got distracted by the hi-tech security scanners that they have. Oh, and this totally rad fold-up trolley.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

I am totally turned on by the security systems too jel. Mainly because we will NEVER be allowed one and I will continue to be blamed for missing stock FOREVER. *wistful stroking of shiny pictures*

We just got one of these:
http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D11/000002110.jpg

Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
OMG!

http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/ISBN.html

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The response of my girlfriend (in Library school in Mississippi!!):

"holy shit!
It's like the monks compliing the billion names of buddha or whatever
It's Armageddon!"


tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't say I'm shocked or anything, just seems like something that was going to happen anyway.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoa. They turned it up to 13.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

For when you need that little extra push unto the the shelf.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(Humbly submit that typo form might be better than correctly spelled version. At least without the extra fcuking "the')

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my God! Think of the impact on AACR2!!!!!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Grrr. This will be nothing but a big headache.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

But it will be a great boon to- who, COBOL programmers?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I never search by ISBN number anyway - give me an author or a title, and I'll find you damn book.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They needed to do it. Publishers ran out of numbers they could assign to new books.

youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

B-b-but:
It's fun to search by the I-S-B-N!

(xpost)

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

They needed to do it. Publishers ran out of numbers they could assign to new books.

This was my thought. Sorta like new area codes post-cell phone population explosion.

I really don't deal much with ISBNs at all unless I'm sending in an order to our acquisitions department, so the change will be a bit abstract.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Just because something is necessary doesn't mean I can't grouch and bitch about it!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I've spent all day learning how to catalogue to AACR2 level 2 standard. I'm struck by the realisation that I'll probably never need to use it in my job.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm all for that. (xpost)

youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Great. My brain is wired to visualizing those ten-digit numbers. It will be awkward. Typing in those extra numbers will no doubt add about another half an hour or so of labor to my day. Kiss ilxing goodbye, then...

k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

This may affect acquisitions a little bit. I sometimes search for books to purchase using the ISBN. Three numbers, no big deal.

Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

they should make the extras letters with acsents!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I can just imagine the glitches in various catalogues, databases and pacs though. They are all glitchy enough without the extra numbers.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link


Oh, it's not until 2007 at least. But yeah, knowing what I know about library database glitches, it will take another two or so years for all of the problems to be cleared up.

k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I am heartened that ILX is so up in arms about this.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's really sad. I've heard that because the market for library systems is so small, they don't have very good programmers working on them. Yet they are so useful and necessary. (xpost)

youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I've yet to hear anything from anyone else here at UCI but I suspect a few of my friends here will be venting soon enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Imagine the OCLC upgrades...jesus.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I need AgeLine. But thank you for responding!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

best of luck!

devvvine, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

I don't have AgeLine but I appear to have access to something called "Abstracts in Social Gerontology" though NB I never use these databases so I don't really have any idea what I'm looking at / doing - but if there's something specific I can search for in here let me know...

If you need AgeLine specifically, sorry, good luck!

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

I think I scraped together enough, but I may hit you up on that offer later. Thank you, very kind!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

no problem, good luck with your research paper!

I'm going to bed now (sorry if this is bad timing) but will no doubt be around tomorrow morning uk time if there is something I can try to track down for you.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

So these last few months my focus has been shifting from in-person access work to online, obviously -- but also to help our archivists here in some big projects. I'm currently engaged in others as well -- just finished up some work today with a big new one that should get a lot of attention when it is ready -- but here's a nice piece just published on our site about two of the other ones that have been completed:

https://www.library.ucsf.edu/news/new-ways-of-working-together/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 July 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Well, these next couple of days will be interesting:

https://libraries.universityofcalifornia.edu/sils

And as a result of that, as of a few hours from now, Millennium will no longer be used by us. Which is a weird kinda farewell -- to quote myself from FB: Since my first formal day of work at the UCI Libraries on January 2, 1997, I have used, one way or another, this piece of software up to the present day through my UCSF Libraries work. It went through updates, iterations, changes, but Millennium just chugged along, and like the name implied it really comes from a place in the mid-to late 90s Windows universe in particular, something that did the job but was often slow, clunky and weird. What felt vaguely half-futuristic rapidly wasn't, and as other programming approaches took hold it REALLY showed its age. Later today use of Millennium will stop as the entire UC library system is about to switch over in a long-planned move to a unified top to bottom entity via the Primo/Alma web-based software from ExLibris, and I'm sure there will be growing pains and quirks and so forth. I am really interested to see how that works out, THAT feels like the future in a fascinating way. But this clunky, slow, sometimes painfully annoying software did the work all this time, and I have no more romance to offer than that, certainly no melancholy or sadness. It'll just be weird never to see the darn thing again.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 July 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

We switched to Alma/Primo back in 2015. We were using Voyager before

treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link

Ex Libris have a seriously dominant stake in Academic libraries now. It will be interesting to see how things develop with their latest ownership group

treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link

I'm at a weird special library where we STILL use Voyager. But our IT/Systems team is seriously understaffed and under-budgeted so a migration is probably not in the cards for a while. That'll be a real headache.

Voyager definitely shows its age (particularly its OPAC) but it still does the job decently well for us.

OneSecondBefore, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

Different topic, but Anne Helen Petersen has some thoughts about the way the MLIS has evolved into basically a mandatory degree if you want a living wage in libraries: https://annehelen.substack.com/p/the-masters-trap-part-two-069

It’s not a question of being a lower-paid librarian or a higher-paid librarian; it’s a question of being a staff member who doesn’t make enough to live on or figuring out a way to fund your MLIS. And then, even if you do make it into a program, there are too many people with master’s degrees and too few jobs for them.

in the end i bought two book hods (not correct term) from gresswell as advised by NickB q17 yrs ago and I still use them a lot, they do the job they are designed for!

sometimws ilx is good!

mark s, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

ann helen petersen otm

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

the honest truth is that all graduate school and possibly all undergrad is a shakedown scam. if anyone asks me about graduate school (and no one does), i will tell them not to go, or to drop out if they're currently enrolled.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

I can see her point there. I've been happily able to live without an MLIS in the field -- and arguably I feel better all around because of it -- but then again my pay increases over time are the reasons why, thanks to both hanging in there and whatever quality and skill I have that's been recognized (including a full reclass in 2008 -- just before the recession, thankfully). And I've been working in it for almost a quarter of a century. Current entry level? *shakes head*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 July 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link


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